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MikeWaters · 09-09-2007, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by scottie

Of course it's reasonable, to you and me. You're not trying to say that Kirby's truth is the truth the LDS Church tells are you? That's what would be "offensive" to the DesNews.

"Historians, notably the inestimable Juanita Brooks, who tried to bring the facts of the massacre to light, were ostracized by fellow Mormons and even threatened by church leaders. We couldn't, it seemed, handle The Truth about ourselves. "

you're saying that the DN wouldn't admit this to be true?

Separate from this question, I consider JB to be the bravest member of the church that I know of in the modern era. She was threatened with excommunication by an apostle, if she told the truth. And she did.

David O. McKay in his wisdom, didn't allow the apostle to proceed with excommunication.

Jeff Lebowski · 09-09-2007, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

you're saying that the DN wouldn't admit this to be true?

Separate from this question, I consider JB to be the bravest member of the church that I know of in the modern era. She was threatened with excommunication by an apostle, if she told the truth. And she did.

David O. McKay in his wisdom, didn't allow the apostle to proceed with excommunication.

Do you remember which apostle it was? I can't recall at the moment.

Yes, she deserves a tremendous amount of respect.

scottie · 09-09-2007, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

you're saying that the DN wouldn't admit this to be true?

I'm saying the DN/LDS Church leadership would have a problem with its content.

MikeWaters · 09-09-2007, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by scottie

I'm saying the DN/LDS Church leadership would have a problem with its content.

why do you say that? have you read the lastest about MMM on the church website?

scottie · 09-09-2007, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

why do you say that? have you read the lastest about MMM on the church website?

I haven't.

scottie · 09-09-2007, 05:31 AM

This thread is turning into something I didn't intend it to. I wish I'd only posted the link and said that I enjoyed the column. I'm not trying to out the LDS Church for hiding the truth about MMM, whether they do/did or not I really don't care.

il Padrino Ute · 09-09-2007, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by scottie

Sorry, I should have said LDS Church leadership. Did you really not see that connection? Or are you saying the LDS Church would have no problem with that column?

I don't think the LDS Church would have a problem with that column. President Hinkley has done a lot to help begin the healing of that situation.

Then again, if we hear that Kirby has been excommunicated in the next little bit, then I guess that I would be wrong.

il Padrino Ute · 09-09-2007, 08:31 AM

Here's something right from the Deseret News that is relevant to this post. It's actually today's (Sunday) edition:

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1...208586,00.html

Archaea · 09-09-2007, 01:30 PM

The Church wouldn't have a problem with Kirby's column. Do you condemn the Fancher party for being relatives of slavers?

09-09-2007, 05:31 AM	#16
scottie Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 525	This thread is turning into something I didn't intend it to. I wish I'd only posted the link and said that I enjoyed the column. I'm not trying to out the LDS Church for hiding the truth about MMM, whether they do/did or not I really don't care. Last edited by scottie; 09-09-2007 at 05:50 AM. Reason: spelling

09-09-2007, 08:31 AM	#18
il Padrino Ute Board Pinhead Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In the basement of my house, Murray, Utah. Posts: 15,941	Here's something right from the Deseret News that is relevant to this post. It's actually today's (Sunday) edition: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1...208586,00.html __________________ "The beauty of baseball is not having to explain it." - Chuck Shriver "This is now the joke that stupid people laugh at." - Christopher Hitchens on IQ jokes about GWB.

09-09-2007, 01:30 PM	#19
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	The Church wouldn't have a problem with Kirby's column. Do you condemn the Fancher party for being relatives of slavers? __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα