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SeattleUte · 07-09-2007, 04:05 PM

Blame "coldly manipulative Cheney," not "the callow, lazy, and ignorant President he serves," for the series of "crimes and misdemeanors that have inflicted unprecedented disgrace on our country’s moral and political standing: the casual trashing of habeas corpus and the Geneva Conventions; the claim of authority to seize suspects, including American citizens, and imprison them indefinitely and incommunicado, with no right to due process of law; the outright encouragement of 'cruel,' 'inhuman,' and 'degrading' treatment of prisoners; the use of undoubted torture, including waterboarding (Cheney: 'a no-brainer for me'), which for a century the United States had prosecuted as a war crime; and, of course, the bloody, nightmarish Iraq war itself, launched under false pretenses, conducted with stupefying incompetence, and escalated long after public support for it had evaporated, at the cost of scores of thousands of lives, nearly half a trillion dollars, and the crippling of America’s armed forces, which no longer overawe and will take years to rebuild."

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/commen...talk_hertzberg

MikeWaters · 07-09-2007, 04:08 PM

how hard is it to reign in a Vice President?

Tex · 07-09-2007, 04:11 PM

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how hard is it to reign in a Vice President?

You get a chance every 4 years.

BYU71 · 07-09-2007, 04:14 PM

An interesting read by someone who sits on his butt and doesn't have to make any tough decisions.

There are those who get into the game and make decisions and take the glory or the heat. There are those who sit on their butts and make comments from their own little sheltered intellectual world.

Tell me this honestly. If you found out the Chinese were planning to do us in in about 6 months, would you rather have Cheney leading us through it or this sit on his butt journalist.

MikeWaters · 07-09-2007, 04:20 PM

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Tell me this honestly. If you found out the Chinese were planning to do us in in about 6 months, would you rather have Cheney leading us through it or this sit on his butt journalist.

anyone who wants Cheney after witnessing Iraq would have to be crazy. or suicidal.

BYU71 · 07-09-2007, 04:24 PM

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anyone who wants Cheney after witnessing Iraq would have to be crazy. or suicidal.

So you would take this journalist to lead the Country in such a situation?

This journalist and you and most Americans probably would have told Edison his failures were proof he couldn't succeed in inventing the light bulb.

Bottom line is this war on terror is tough and hard. The scapegoat is Cheney.

MikeWaters · 07-09-2007, 04:30 PM

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So you would take this journalist to lead the Country in such a situation?

This journalist and you and most Americans probably would have told Edison his failures were proof he couldn't succeed in inventing the light bulb.

Bottom line is this war on terror is tough and hard. The scapegoat is Cheney.

I would take Dennis Kucinich before I would take Cheney.

I think that should tell you what I think of him.

And trust me, Cheney sits on his ass and writes white letters with the best of them.

BYU71 · 07-09-2007, 04:34 PM

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I would take Dennis Kucinich before I would take Cheney.

I think that should tell you what I think of him.

And trust me, Cheney sits on his ass and writes white letters with the best of them.

I thought we were going to clean up the language? You would rather have Kucinich? That is why you liberals never have ruled anything of any significance. You live in lala land.

MikeWaters · 07-09-2007, 04:39 PM

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I thought we were going to clean up the language? You would rather have Kucinich? That is why you liberals never have ruled anything of any significance. You live in lala land.

I would rather have Knut the polar bear. And he's German!

BYU71 · 07-09-2007, 04:49 PM

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I would rather have Knut the polar bear. And he's German!

Another character from lala land.

07-09-2007, 04:05 PM	#1
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	Blame Cheney Blame "coldly manipulative Cheney," not "the callow, lazy, and ignorant President he serves," for the series of "crimes and misdemeanors that have inflicted unprecedented disgrace on our country’s moral and political standing: the casual trashing of habeas corpus and the Geneva Conventions; the claim of authority to seize suspects, including American citizens, and imprison them indefinitely and incommunicado, with no right to due process of law; the outright encouragement of 'cruel,' 'inhuman,' and 'degrading' treatment of prisoners; the use of undoubted torture, including waterboarding (Cheney: 'a no-brainer for me'), which for a century the United States had prosecuted as a war crime; and, of course, the bloody, nightmarish Iraq war itself, launched under false pretenses, conducted with stupefying incompetence, and escalated long after public support for it had evaporated, at the cost of scores of thousands of lives, nearly half a trillion dollars, and the crippling of America’s armed forces, which no longer overawe and will take years to rebuild." http://www.newyorker.com/talk/commen...talk_hertzberg __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster

07-09-2007, 04:08 PM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,367	how hard is it to reign in a Vice President?

07-09-2007, 04:14 PM	#4
BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	An interesting read by someone who sits on his butt and doesn't have to make any tough decisions. There are those who get into the game and make decisions and take the glory or the heat. There are those who sit on their butts and make comments from their own little sheltered intellectual world. Tell me this honestly. If you found out the Chinese were planning to do us in in about 6 months, would you rather have Cheney leading us through it or this sit on his butt journalist.