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Archaea · 07-15-2010, 04:16 PM

how are they different in their intellectual reconciliation of moments causing cognitive dissonance?

http://www.mormontimes.com/article/1...ce=queue_title

LDS explain away bad conduct or bad decisions by leaders in much the same way Catholics do.

They argue Pope is not really infallible as non-Catholics really claim, but rather only when he speaks ex cathedra, from the chair of Peter. Otherwise he is just a man. And apparently excommunication means in the modern RCC something different than what it means in the LDS Church. However, even murder is apparently forgivable.

But if one examines the essence of the arguments, we use the same logic as the RCC defenders of the faith, just apply them to different facts. Or we twist and turn and say BY's priesthood policy really wasn't racist.

MikeWaters · 07-15-2010, 04:24 PM

Catholics claim the Pope is infallible, but don't really believe it. Mormons claim their prophet is not infallible, but don't really believe it.

So goes the old saying.

Archaea · 07-15-2010, 05:05 PM

that's the saying, but in reality, LDS treat their prophet much in the same way, Catholics treat the pope.

The true Catholic doctrine is not that the Pope is infallible but that he is infallible ex cathedra, from the chair of Peter.

LDS teach the prophet when speaking from the pulpit and moved upon by the Holy Ghost will not lead us astray.

The distinctions are not that great.

07-15-2010, 04:16 PM	#1
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	Orson Scott Card and the Roman Catholic Church how are they different in their intellectual reconciliation of moments causing cognitive dissonance? http://www.mormontimes.com/article/1...ce=queue_title LDS explain away bad conduct or bad decisions by leaders in much the same way Catholics do. They argue Pope is not really infallible as non-Catholics really claim, but rather only when he speaks ex cathedra, from the chair of Peter. Otherwise he is just a man. And apparently excommunication means in the modern RCC something different than what it means in the LDS Church. However, even murder is apparently forgivable. But if one examines the essence of the arguments, we use the same logic as the RCC defenders of the faith, just apply them to different facts. Or we twist and turn and say BY's priesthood policy really wasn't racist. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

07-15-2010, 05:05 PM	#3
Archaea Assistant to the Regional Manager Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Orgasmatron Posts: 24,338	that's the saying, but in reality, LDS treat their prophet much in the same way, Catholics treat the pope. The true Catholic doctrine is not that the Pope is infallible but that he is infallible ex cathedra, from the chair of Peter. LDS teach the prophet when speaking from the pulpit and moved upon by the Holy Ghost will not lead us astray. The distinctions are not that great. __________________ Ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα

07-15-2010, 04:24 PM	#2
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,367	Catholics claim the Pope is infallible, but don't really believe it. Mormons claim their prophet is not infallible, but don't really believe it. So goes the old saying.