Bob Dole savages McClellan for being the chubby, spineless mediocrity that he is - cougarguard.com — unofficial BYU Cougars / LDS sports, football, basketball forum and message board

Oxcoug · 05-30-2008, 04:35 PM

I've said it from the beginning - McClellan was to press secretaries what Dennis Hastert was to House Speakers - an utterly uncompelling, unqualified fat boy who stumbled into a good job.

It's a testament to the incompetence of the Bush people that they handed such an important job to such a complete suckwit.

McClellan says nothing that is new and little that is credible - Rove and Libby had a meeting behind closed doors in 2005???? Oooohh really Scotty? Hmm wonder why that would be... being the respective chiefs of staff for the VPOTUS and the POTUS, what possible reason could they have to meet? According to Rove they met multiple times weekly.

Why is any of this news? But of course for McClellan - the only way he was ever going to get any where was to sell out. So that's what he did. Sold out, made stuff up. Dole nails him.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonath...McClellan.html

Coach McGuirk · 05-30-2008, 04:39 PM

It seems like a lot of unqualified people stumble into good jobs during this admin.

MikeWaters · 05-30-2008, 04:49 PM

Bob Dole sure is classy.

Bob, are cigarettes still not addictive?

Oxcoug · 05-30-2008, 04:53 PM

Out of our shared respect for Steve Dallas I'm going to assume that you don't actually believe that Bob Dole isn't right about McClellan - I mean even if you accept his critique of the Bush admin you have to accept that it takes one sleazy, spineless dude to say nothing for years, bask in the glory of his mediocrity and then come out with this for cash.

MikeWaters · 05-30-2008, 05:02 PM

He didn't read the book, said he wouldn't read the book, and he's passing judgment. Straight out of the SU playbook.

Clark Addison · 05-30-2008, 05:14 PM

I agree that this isn't news, but not because McClellan isn't credible, but because, as Oxcoug alluded to, none of this is a surprise. Bush trumped up shady reasons for war? People lied about Plame? Bush is less interested in finding the truth than pushing an agenda? Is any of this a surprise to those who have followed the news?

MikeWaters · 05-30-2008, 05:16 PM

McClellan is the GOP version of Dick Morris, sans prostitute.

And Dick Morris has made a valuable contribution in his analysis, that also usually stabs the Clintons in the back.

UtahDan · 05-30-2008, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

McClellan is the GOP version of Dick Morris, sans prostitute.

And Dick Morris has made a valuable contribution in his analysis, that also usually stabs the Clintons in the back.

I think Karl Rove would have to turn on the Bushies for there to be any true analog to Morris, in terms of what he has accomplished as an evil genius.

MikeWaters · 05-30-2008, 05:30 PM

You know when the GOP resorts to calling McClellan "fat", in response to his book, that the GOP really is intellectually dead.

It's dead on the ground already, we know that. But when they can't even respond, it's intellectually dead as well.

Oxcoug · 05-30-2008, 05:36 PM

Or are you confused and think that I'm the Republican Party?

"Fat" is an adjective that points to McClellan's slovenly mediocrity and the clogged arteries of his mind - which I pointed out LONG before he sold out for cash.

But the criticisms of his critique are substantive and plenty. His claim that Rove and Libby had a special meeting about Plame in 2005 is laughably absurd - he knows it how? Because he saw them go behind closed doors. Which they did often, though he says otherwise.

Also lost in much of this - though pointed out by a few of the more astute observers - is the fact that press secretaries are routinely and deliberately NOT invited to most strategic consultations. People like Doug Feith were. McClellan was not. So if you want to know what really happened, as opposed to stimulating yourself with Scotty's profiteering novel, go read Feith's book.

05-30-2008, 04:35 PM	#1
Oxcoug Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 69	Bob Dole savages McClellan for being the chubby, spineless mediocrity that he is I've said it from the beginning - McClellan was to press secretaries what Dennis Hastert was to House Speakers - an utterly uncompelling, unqualified fat boy who stumbled into a good job. It's a testament to the incompetence of the Bush people that they handed such an important job to such a complete suckwit. McClellan says nothing that is new and little that is credible - Rove and Libby had a meeting behind closed doors in 2005???? Oooohh really Scotty? Hmm wonder why that would be... being the respective chiefs of staff for the VPOTUS and the POTUS, what possible reason could they have to meet? According to Rove they met multiple times weekly. Why is any of this news? But of course for McClellan - the only way he was ever going to get any where was to sell out. So that's what he did. Sold out, made stuff up. Dole nails him. http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonath...McClellan.html

05-30-2008, 04:39 PM	#2
Coach McGuirk Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Bubble Posts: 606	It seems like a lot of unqualified people stumble into good jobs during this admin. __________________ "Hey! It's all ball bearings nowadays. Now you prepare that Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads. And I'm gonna need 'bout ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State. "

05-30-2008, 04:53 PM	#4
Oxcoug Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 69	Come on Waters Out of our shared respect for Steve Dallas I'm going to assume that you don't actually believe that Bob Dole isn't right about McClellan - I mean even if you accept his critique of the Bush admin you have to accept that it takes one sleazy, spineless dude to say nothing for years, bask in the glory of his mediocrity and then come out with this for cash.

05-30-2008, 05:36 PM	#10
Oxcoug Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 69	Did the RNC call him "fat"? Or are you confused and think that I'm the Republican Party? "Fat" is an adjective that points to McClellan's slovenly mediocrity and the clogged arteries of his mind - which I pointed out LONG before he sold out for cash. But the criticisms of his critique are substantive and plenty. His claim that Rove and Libby had a special meeting about Plame in 2005 is laughably absurd - he knows it how? Because he saw them go behind closed doors. Which they did often, though he says otherwise. Also lost in much of this - though pointed out by a few of the more astute observers - is the fact that press secretaries are routinely and deliberately NOT invited to most strategic consultations. People like Doug Feith were. McClellan was not. So if you want to know what really happened, as opposed to stimulating yourself with Scotty's profiteering novel, go read Feith's book.

05-30-2008, 04:49 PM	#3
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,367	Bob Dole sure is classy. Bob, are cigarettes still not addictive?

05-30-2008, 05:02 PM	#5
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,367	He didn't read the book, said he wouldn't read the book, and he's passing judgment. Straight out of the SU playbook.

05-30-2008, 05:14 PM	#6
Clark Addison Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 638	I agree that this isn't news, but not because McClellan isn't credible, but because, as Oxcoug alluded to, none of this is a surprise. Bush trumped up shady reasons for war? People lied about Plame? Bush is less interested in finding the truth than pushing an agenda? Is any of this a surprise to those who have followed the news?

05-30-2008, 05:16 PM	#7
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,367	McClellan is the GOP version of Dick Morris, sans prostitute. And Dick Morris has made a valuable contribution in his analysis, that also usually stabs the Clintons in the back.

05-30-2008, 05:30 PM	#9
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,367	You know when the GOP resorts to calling McClellan "fat", in response to his book, that the GOP really is intellectually dead. It's dead on the ground already, we know that. But when they can't even respond, it's intellectually dead as well.