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Old 08-29-2007, 07:05 PM   #1
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Default Christ suffering for future sins.

Is anyone else troubled by this concept? This has serious implications for the space-time continuum.

For example, if I were to commit a sin tomorrow, then Christ would have suffered for this sin 2000 years ago. Then again, I could also opt not to commit this particular sin. In other words, I am controlling the past. Scary.
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Is anyone else troubled by this concept? This has serious implications for the space-time continuum.

For example, if I were to commit a sin tomorrow, then Christ would have suffered for this sin 2000 years ago. Then again, I could also opt not to commit this particular sin. In other words, I am controlling the past. Scary.
The atonement was not a quid pro quo transaction; i.e., it was not a matter of however much suffering for however much sin, and the Savior received that suffering instead of us. His suffering was infinite; thus, whether you sin or not has no bearing on how much he suffered. See Alma 34.
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The atonement was not a quid pro quo transaction; i.e., it was not a matter of however much suffering for however much sin, and the Savior received that suffering instead of us. His suffering was infinite. See Alma 34.
OK. I think infinite suffering also has implications for the space-time continuum.
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OK. I think infinite suffering also has implications for the space-time continuum.
The Lord has elected not to give us a full understanding of what he went through in the garden. D&C 19.
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The Lord has elected not to give us a full understanding of what he went through in the garden. D&C 19.
Thank goodness for the D&C. Now I know that God doesn't want me to understand it.

In all seriousness, has anyone ever doubted Christ's divinity? Personally, I choose to believe in Christ and I have faith in Him. However, at times my rational mind also considers the idea that Christ could have been nothing more than a revolutionary religious thinker, a superb teacher, and a glorified martyr.
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Thank goodness for the D&C. Now I know that God doesn't want me to understand it.

In all seriousness, has anyone ever doubted Christ's divinity? Personally, I choose to believe in Christ and I have faith in Him. However, at times my rational mind also considers the idea that Christ could have been a revolutionary religious thinker, a superb teacher, and a glorified martyr.
Well, if you insist on understanding his suffering, D&C 19 leaves that option open to you as well.
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Well, if you insist on understanding his suffering, D&C 19 leaves that option open to you as well.
LOL.

I once read of Bruce McConkie answering this question similarly. (I'm paraphrasing) now) When a woman mentioned how bad she felt that each sin she commits adds to Christ's burden, he responded, "Sister, infinite means infinite." Or words to that effect.

Not that McConkie carries any weight on CG.
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"Sister, infinite means infinite."
In other words, the damage has already been done. Sin at will.
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If Christ suffered infinitely, then He must still be suffering. Right? Otherwise that would make it finite suffering.
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In other words, the damage has already been done. Sin at will.
Assuming one repents. Shall we revisit what it means to "forsake" a sin?

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If Christ suffered infinitely, then He must still be suffering. Right? Otherwise that would make it finite suffering.
Joseph Smith said that "the past, the present, and the future were and are, with Him, one eternal 'now.'" See if you can wrap your head around that one.
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