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MikeWaters · 02-11-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Archaea

That's revealed to you when you become ward clerk. See those people in the foyer during sacrament? They must be members of your ward. And the ones getting water? Do you count over if somebody's absent you may or may not account for them and then you see them come in?

Plus it's only the high number that matters for the new program.

with the "give missing members church HQ address" (which I actually suggested to my bishopric), I have to say you are the best ward clerk I have ever come across. Maybe that's why you are assistant to the regional manager here.

pelagius · 02-11-2008, 09:29 PM

It should be noted that average sacrament meeting attendance is not the only variable that matters these days (this was changed a few years ago). The number of youth the ward has and the number of primary age children also matters in the calculation.

Archaea · 02-11-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

with the "give missing members church HQ address" (which I actually suggested to my bishopric), I have to say you are the best ward clerk I have ever come across. Maybe that's why you are assistant to the regional manager here.

I've been known to solve a problem or two. My bishop was appreciative of my innovative solutions. Even though I don't like bureaucracies, some of us have a knack for knowing how to work with them instead of against them.

Archaea · 02-11-2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pelagius

It should be noted that average sacrament meeting attendance is not the only variable that matters these days (this was changed a few years ago). The number of youth the ward has and the number of primary age children also matters in the calculation.

This is true, which when our ward was redesigning specifically campaigned for some apartments with children. Children visiting grandparents on a regular basis can also count, though it helps to be in the computer so that your numbers don't exceed actually allocated numbers.

PaloAltoCougar · 02-11-2008, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

How does one "count high" at sacrament mtg?

I was counseled by tkh9 on Cougarboard to administer eye tests to prospective clerks, and to select the candidate with the most advanced case of macular degeneration. The resultant "seeing double" brings financial blessings to a struggling ward.

And although the amount of monies paid to a stake are based primarily on sacrament meeting attendance, the stake president is free to distribute the funds among the wards as he sees fit, and only after retaining an appropriate cut for stake activities and refurbishing stake offices.

Snowcat · 02-13-2008, 08:56 PM

in order to get high attendance in accounting months? (The meetings formerly known as farewells for example)

We get a quarterly projection from the Stake.

myboynoah · 02-13-2008, 09:24 PM

When I was clerk in Paris it was very much as Mike described. The money would just show up magically. We would also get reqests for the activities we planned over the year so the stake could decide how to divy out the money.

In the end it didn't matter. We never spent the pittance we were alotted. We were a poor ward and I guess that led to an unwillingness to spend the money. I'm sure the richer wards found plenty of ways to spend their budget (in fact a friend from another ward talked of taking all the youth to Parc Asterix one day at roughly $35 a head).

MikeWaters · 02-13-2008, 09:29 PM

the YM and RS spend all the money.

Men are made to feel guilty for submitting receipts.

Archaea · 02-13-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

the YM and RS spend all the money.

Men are made to feel guilty for submitting receipts.

This is a universal truth.

02-13-2008, 08:56 PM	#16
Snowcat Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 103	Don't you schedule your meetings in order to get high attendance in accounting months? (The meetings formerly known as farewells for example) We get a quarterly projection from the Stake.

02-13-2008, 09:24 PM	#17
myboynoah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Memphis freakin' Tennessee!!!!! Posts: 4,530	When I was clerk in Paris it was very much as Mike described. The money would just show up magically. We would also get reqests for the activities we planned over the year so the stake could decide how to divy out the money. In the end it didn't matter. We never spent the pittance we were alotted. We were a poor ward and I guess that led to an unwillingness to spend the money. I'm sure the richer wards found plenty of ways to spend their budget (in fact a friend from another ward talked of taking all the youth to Parc Asterix one day at roughly $35 a head). __________________ Give 'em Hell, Cougars!!! Religion rises inevitably from our apprehension of our own death. To give meaning to meaninglessness is the endless quest of all religion. When death becomes the center of our consciousness, then religion authentically begins. Of all religions that I know, the one that most vehemently and persuasively defies and denies the reality of death is the original Mormonism of the Prophet, Seer and Revelator, Joseph Smith.

02-11-2008, 09:29 PM	#12
pelagius Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,431	It should be noted that average sacrament meeting attendance is not the only variable that matters these days (this was changed a few years ago). The number of youth the ward has and the number of primary age children also matters in the calculation.

02-13-2008, 09:29 PM	#18
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,367	the YM and RS spend all the money. Men are made to feel guilty for submitting receipts.