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Old 08-17-2007, 04:10 AM   #11
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At first glance this looks like a decent article on the subject:

http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOr...____&hideNav=1
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:16 AM   #12
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At first glance this looks like a decent article on the subject:

http://www.lds.org/portal/site/LDSOr...____&hideNav=1
Yeah, that was the one resource/article I could find, and you're right...it does have some good info.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:23 AM   #13
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I also like to use a couple of other gospel doctrine sites to supplement Bro Pelagius' class notes:

http://www.ldsgospeldoctrine.net/index.html

http://www.israelrevealed.com/supple...ine/index.html

http://feastuponthewordblog.org/

Daniel Rona's site and the first link don't have very good search functions, but are easily searchable by scripture chapter. The feast blog is easy to keyword search.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:52 AM   #14
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Talk about how temples have almost become idols in our church. Pagan symbols that blind us to the real message contained within.

Talk about how obscene it may be that the church spends millions on temple construction and up keep, for a worship that can be and has been done in nature.

Talk about how Jesus wasn't here to erect a physical temple of stone, that we literally are the temples we scamper to build.
I'll give you 10 bucks to say that to President Hinckley's face.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:58 AM   #15
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See what happens when you add Jesus into the search
Well that narrowed it down to 9, and they were mainly historical works that largely quoted Josephus. The most interesting one IMO is Herodian Times and Historical Backgrounds, BYU Studies, vol. 36 (1996-97), Number 3--1996-97. I couldn't paste it here because it is 189388 characters and we are limited to 5000. So that would be about 38 maxed out posts. But here is a sample:

There are several reasons for presuming that Jesus did not enter the temple itself. First, according to Jewish law, Jesus did not hold the proper priesthood office to enter the temple. If he had entered the temple, mention of this event and the corresponding outrage by the Jewish leaders probably would appear in the Gospels. Second, two Greek words with significant differences in meaning have been translated simply as "temple" in the King James Version. The Greek word naos most often refers to the actual temple structure. The Greek word hieron refers to the "temple at Jerusalem, including the whole temple precinct[w.[ith] its buildings, courts, etc." Walter Bauer, A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, trans. William F. Arndt and F. Wilbur Gingrich, 2d ed. (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1979), s.v. "hieron." For example, in Luke 1:9, Zacharias burned incense in the naos. In Matt. 21:12, Jesus went in to the hieron to cast out those who "sold and bought," meaning he did not enter the temple itself but the surrounding precinct. The word hieron is used in the references to Jesus being in the temple.
Netzer, "Herod’s Building Program," 3:172.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:03 PM   #16
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I'll give you 10 bucks to say that to President Hinckley's face.
My point was Jesus didn't come to build a temple, he came to show that he was the temple. How each individual interprets that is up to the individual.

Walk down to temple square on any night and see how many people are found gazing up at the temple, in awe at that built from the hand of man forgetting the beauty of that built by the hand of God.
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My point was Jesus didn't come to build a temple, he came to show that he was the temple. How each individual interprets that is up to the individual.

Walk down to temple square on any night and see how many people are found gazing up at the temple, in awe at that built from the hand of man forgetting the beauty of that built by the hand of God.
Isn't it quite possible that the people are standing there in awe of what God has brought about. That is what I stand there and think about, not the magnificense of the building. It's nice, really nice. However, if I was going to stand in awe of a building for the building, there are plenty of others I would go and stand in awe of first.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:11 PM   #18
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My point was Jesus didn't come to build a temple, he came to show that he was the temple. How each individual interprets that is up to the individual.

Walk down to temple square on any night and see how many people are found gazing up at the temple, in awe at that built from the hand of man forgetting the beauty of that built by the hand of God.
You make an assumption here not in evidence.

"In awe of the hand of man."

Perhaps they marvel at the materials provided by God to man, the knowledge God has imbued man with, and the symbology of the temple in representing man's omphalus with God.
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:11 PM   #19
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My point was Jesus didn't come to build a temple, he came to show that he was the temple. How each individual interprets that is up to the individual.

Walk down to temple square on any night and see how many people are found gazing up at the temple, in awe at that built from the hand of man forgetting the beauty of that built by the hand of God.
geez... do you ever get bored spewing out complete crap?
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Old 08-17-2007, 04:12 PM   #20
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My point was Jesus didn't come to build a temple, he came to show that he was the temple. How each individual interprets that is up to the individual.

Walk down to temple square on any night and see how many people are found gazing up at the temple, in awe at that built from the hand of man forgetting the beauty of that built by the hand of God.
I agree with you in principle. I believe it is easier to remember the simple purpose of Christ's mission without ornate structures tempting our interest and awe. However, neither you nor I are totally aware what others are pondering upon at Temple Square or anywhere else.

You as accurate with LDS members thoughts as you are in evaluating college football players, uhhhhh especially at the qb position? Could you give me a percentage breakdown of which mormons are thinking what where? Use the patented 5-90-5 breakdown with the middle 90 being some type of mediocrity.

I miss you pontificating about sports.
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