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Old 07-16-2007, 09:59 PM   #11
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There are non-reproductive members of almost every species on earth, and these animals confer an advantage by contributing to the survival and/or prosperity of the species. Non-reproducers often have particular abilities. It's also advantageous for a species to have non-reproductive members because they can especially enhance group efforts (hunting, etc.) since these animals are not constrained by parenting duties.
Interesting theory, I'll have to cogitate on it.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:01 PM   #12
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A lot of jesting here, but as far as heterosexuals are concerned one should be able to tell if the other is aroused.

However, lack of premarital sex can result in not being sexually compatible.
Gay people can be aroused by the opposite sex. The definition of sexual orientation, technically speaking, would be based on the gender with which the person would prefer to have sex. Plenty of gay people get aroused with the opposite sex enough to have 10 kids, etc.

I think the Church should teach young adults how to distinguish, if there are such methods.

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Old 07-16-2007, 10:13 PM   #13
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Gay people can be aroused by the opposite sex. The definition of sexual orientation, technically speaking, would be based on the gender that the person would prefer to have sex. Plenty of gay people get aroused with the opposite sex enough to have 10 kids, etc.

I think the Church should teach young adults how to distinguish, if there are such methods.
Well then, I just don't understand.

Why would one want an anus, when the appropriate orifice is already better devised and available. I undestand the variety angle, but that doesn't mean one's bread and butter need to go to the absurd. Plus what's better than a pair of beautiful breasts? Unless a gay guy has manboobs, and those are akin to the saggies of aged women, what joy is there.

You are correct that gay men apparently can get aroused by women. Okay, we're in a field for which I have no imagination. I have no gaydar, nor recognition of it, until the person states, "I'm gay."

At that point in time, I realize it, okay, this person is gay.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:19 PM   #14
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I think the Church should teach young adults how to distinguish, if there are such methods.
This is the most unusual "the Church should" statement I've seen on CG yet.
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I honestly feel bad for those who struggle with it. A friend just recently told me about someone who was in his department when he worked at Ricks who had gone through this. He had moved down to Logan to work at USU and was made bishop in his ward. My friend said that one day his wife got a call telling her she better get tested because of the actions of her husband. He had been up front about his attraction to men but both felt they could fight through it.

It would be a terrible thing to have to go through.
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There are non-reproductive members of almost every species on earth, and these animals confer an advantage by contributing to the survival and/or prosperity of the species. Non-reproducers often have particular abilities. It's also advantageous for a species to have non-reproductive members because they can especially enhance group efforts (hunting, etc.) since these animals are not constrained by parenting duties.
Hmm, these are some interesting ideas. Where did you read/learn about this stuff? Can you suggest some reading material for someone that wants to learn about how non-reproductive members of a species act as an advantage to that species?
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This is the most unusual "the Church should" statement I've seen on CG yet.
Well if any figures out how to spot the gay guys let me know. That's really close to the top worst case scenario, right behind pedophile...I guess there's always gay pedophile too. Equally disturbing, I can't marry any of those people, I'm not emotionally equipped to deal with that kind of stuff.
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:26 AM   #18
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Hmm, these are some interesting ideas. Where did you read/learn about this stuff? Can you suggest some reading material for someone that wants to learn about how non-reproductive members of a species act as an advantage to that species?
The only ones that come readily to my mind are in social colony type species like ants and bees (worker/drones) but those certainly don't translate to mammals. Perhapos he meant animals that are nto successful at reproduction yet have some function in th epack or community, like submissive males. Otherwsie, I am tnot too sure what he means and would be curious about the "almost every species" assertion.
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Should gay Mormon men be encouraged to come out of the closet instead of trying to "overcome" their sexual orientation by getting married?
from what I've heard the church doesn't encourage those marriages anymore due to too many broken families
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:47 AM   #20
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Well if any figures out how to spot the gay guys let me know. That's really close to the top worst case scenario, right behind pedophile...I guess there's always gay pedophile too. Equally disturbing, I can't marry any of those people, I'm not emotionally equipped to deal with that kind of stuff.
I use the Seinfeld method: Single, thin, and neat. If they are single, thin, and neat you must investigate closer. Hopefully you don't live in Utah County because it is full of Ryan Seacrest types (metrosexuals). Metros have made distinguishing the real gay people a lot harder.
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