The Mormon psychologist who designed the torture program

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I agree with you BlueK.

One freaking guy living in a concrete house in Pakistan with no internet, sitting around and watching porn tapes, is able to cause Americans to consent to giving up their civil liberties.

Un-F-ing believable.

That is one perspective, but he was one guy, who organized the biggest attack on the US since Pearl Harbor, from a family worth billions, with millions of fans and wannabes. Not your average guy holed up in Pakistan.

[MikeWaters]

I miss Christopher Hitchens. He would had some things to say about this.

Chistopher, wherever you are up there, or down there, we miss you.

[BlueK]

Originally Posted by Archaea

That is one perspective, but he was one guy, who organized the biggest attack on the US since Pearl Harbor, from a family worth billions, with millions of fans and wannabes. Not your average guy holed up in Pakistan.

I don't believe any loss of civil liberties would have been necessary to get him. Immdiately after 9/11 we went after Al-Qaida in Afghanistan pretty successfully for a while and had them on the ropes. But then after a few weeks is when Cheney and Bush decided it was time to shift the focus to starting a war with Iraq, and we just let Al-Qaida find its way into Pakistan where it was much harder to find them. It didn't have to happen that way.