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Mr Ox:
I have not read this thread in depth, but I am curiopus why you keep referring to Cali as sister or sis. Is this intendeed to eb pejorative? I find it offensive and sexist that you would use it as a diminutive. If there is something else I missed, sorry.
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05-30-2008, 10:26 PM | #22 |
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As for Clinton hurting Obama
Sure - she's taken her shots. But there's an interesting theory shared by one of my biz partners who is a former Democratic White House Dir of Communications (and - oh yes Cali - his opinion does, in fact, matter more than the opinion of the local pharmacist)....
He says he thinks that even though she delivers blows she helps Obama get back up - because every time he drops people start to remember how little they like Hillary and the Clinton family. She helps that by making one of her horrible public forays - and before long they're flocking back to OB. He theorizes that if Obama's opponent were a solid, centrist white dude like Mark Warner or Tom Vilsack these things would have hurt him more. Can I quantify that theory? No. Doesn't matter, don't need to. It's just a theory but it's a plausible one. |
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05-30-2008, 10:28 PM | #24 |
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Mr Creek. No - it's not intended to be pejorative. It's intended to be playfully combative. All you missed was the tone of my "voice" which can be difficult to spot in e comm.
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As an aside, your friend's theory that Wright would have "hurt him more" if his opponent were someone else seems to be an admission of sorts that Wright hasn't hurt him much, which doesn't really help you. |
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No, you didn't miss much. That is how I took it too. I frankly don't know how many other ways there are to take it.
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On evidence - the claim I have made is that perceptions about Obama changed for the worse. Prior to this incident he was viewed as a post-racial candidate. Many voters no longer buy that.
The dips and curves of public opinion as reflected in Gallup, Rasmussen, Zogby and whatever else are, of course, inexact barometers of how impressions are accumulating and how they will play out in the general - but it's clear that Obama's position is less strong in late May than it was in early March. You can correlate that to Hillary battering him. I can say yeah, but Hillary wouldn't even be alive in this thing if it weren't for the Wright bump. And you can say this and I can say that - at the end I'll bet money that Obama loses Florida. And that one of the main reasons will be the defection of Jewish Democrats. |
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Coooome on kids. Unfurrow your brows.
We're Mormons right? Mostly? We call each other "brother" and "sister." Obviously I didn't mean it as some religious salutation. But I did mean it as a harmlessly playful cultural reference. |
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Sorry, I just don't think it is that funny. I am sure you didn't mean harm, but it is not a good approach to promote, IMO. (I have become much more senstive abotu this sort of thing since I have had a daughter and have seen how these types of conventions affect children's perceptions.)
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CaliCoug: Nothing stupid Obama does will ever be viewed negatively by anyone notwithstanding proof or common sense. Nothing stupid Obama does will ever be viewed negatively by anyone notwithstanding proof or common sense. Nothing stupid Obama does will ever be viewed negatively by anyone notwithstanding proof or common sense...
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