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Old 10-03-2007, 10:14 PM   #11
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Ken Burns is amazing and this may be his best work yet. Either that, or this subject matter has just been the most interesting to me.
Ken Burns can burn in Hell for all I care for that horrible hack job he did with his documentary on jazz. He did jazz music a huge disservice on that one.

You cannot do a documentary like that and use a reactionary figure like Wynton Marsalis and your lead expert without having someone on the other side to balance it out. I would not support anything this guy produces after what he did to jazz music.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:22 PM   #12
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Wikipedia has a decent summary of the criticism of that piece of crap, but it is a little too positive for my tastes.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_%28TV_series%29
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Here is a great review of the documentary. It was a joke the way he treated a great jazz innovator like Cecil Taylor in this documentary. Disgusting, absolutely disgusting.
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/articles/arti0201_03.htm
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:37 PM   #14
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Ken Burns can burn in Hell for all I care for that horrible hack job he did with his documentary on jazz. He did jazz music a huge disservice on that one.

You cannot do a documentary like that and use a reactionary figure like Wynton Marsalis and your lead expert without having someone on the other side to balance it out. I would not support anything this guy produces after what he did to jazz music.
I didn't watch that one.

Who gives a crap about jazz anyway?

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Old 10-03-2007, 10:40 PM   #15
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I didn't watch that one.

Who gives a crap about jazz anyway?

(I kid, I kid)
MPfunk apparently, which I would hardly call a ringing endorsement.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:54 PM   #16
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I care about jazz, and I only watched the first half or so of the documentary. maybe through Charlie Parker. I didn't watch the one that had the Marsalis brothers dismissing Cecil Taylor. Funk is right, they should have had someone besides Wynton (sounds like he nominated himself the resident expert) speaking up for that period of jazz.
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:29 PM   #17
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I care about jazz, and I only watched the first half or so of the documentary. maybe through Charlie Parker. I didn't watch the one that had the Marsalis brothers dismissing Cecil Taylor. Funk is right, they should have had someone besides Wynton (sounds like he nominated himself the resident expert) speaking up for that period of jazz.
I love this review of the documentary, because it reaches the level of negativity that the series should have gotten. I particularly love the descriptions of Wynton Marsalis and Crouch. Wynton has talent, but he is so reactionary that he cannot be your leading expert.

http://www.gerryhemingway.com/jazzburn.html

Ultimately my problem is that it gave skewed view of the music to many who are not exposed to the music. I think that the most interesting movements in jazz happened post 1950.
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MPfunk apparently, which I would hardly call a ringing endorsement.
Well unlike you I don't like my music completely white washed.
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