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Old 07-25-2007, 02:13 AM   #1
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It was interesting to read Einsteins thought process on the nature of God. There does not seem to be any room/need for a saviour. I wonder if he belived in a need for a saviour. When I lost my faith in mormonism I struggled with this as well, why do we need a saviour at all. Interestingly enough B.H. Roberts helped clarify it for me.

"...many doubt of the necessity of the atonement, and argue that, if forgiveness of Adam's transgression in Eden was needed, or if man's individual sins need a pardon, then God of His sovereign will, without any expiation for the one or the other of these sins, could have forgiven these transgressions."

B.H. goes on to argue that just as there are physical laws that govern our universe (gravity, thermodynamics, RELATIVITY) there are also spiritual laws that govern the universe. No man can break the physical laws without consequence (You drive into a wall at 100 mph and you will get hammered) likewise, the spiritual laws cannot be broken without consequence. Roberts goes on:

"And now, in the presence of these facts, what can man do to mend this breach in the law? What can God do? Forgive man his transgression out of hand, as becomes the true sovereign of the universe? An ancient, and we could well say a time honored suggestion..."It can be readily understood that not even God's omnipotence could make it possible for Him to act contrary to truth and justice. It ought to be no more difficult to understand that God's omnipotence would not permit Him to set aside a satisfaction to justice, any more than to grant an arbitrary concession to mercy. Mere power has not the right to nullify law, nor even omnipotence the right to abolish justice...God, we must conclude, will act in harmony with all His attributes, else confusion in the moral government of the world."

Thus the need for a saviour. He concludes with this:

"It is because love reigns in harmony with law that we mortals can be so sure of it; and rest so secure in it. For as it was not born of caprice, so, too, it will not depart from the world, nor from individuals on caprice; but will endure as space itself endures--from the very nature of it; as truth abides; as law itself subsists; as God lives; for it is of the eternal things--the things that do not pass away."
It is ironic that a Einstein who spent his life explaining the laws of the universe may have missed the spiritual laws and the necessary price that would need to be payed to restore balance.

Since Christ paid the price to restore balance, what will he require of us to be granted forgiveness? Men have been trying to anwser that question for centuries.

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Old 07-25-2007, 03:19 AM   #2
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The notion that we need a savior to atone for our sins has always struck me as contrived. I don't discount the possibility that there is some sort of higher power or force or energy that is greater than us, but the idea that the only way that we can square ourselves with that higher power is through an earthly atonement makes no sense at all to me.
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Old 07-25-2007, 02:15 PM   #3
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The notion that we need a savior to atone for our sins has always struck me as contrived. I don't discount the possibility that there is some sort of higher power or force or energy that is greater than us, but the idea that the only way that we can square ourselves with that higher power is through an earthly atonement makes no sense at all to me.
I would recommend reading the Roberts commentary on this subject. I thought it made a lot of sense. Its in a book he wrote called The Way, The Truth, The Life.

You do have to accept the premise that there are spiritual laws governing the universe in addition to the physical.
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