11-01-2007, 06:44 PM | #1 |
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The Vietnamese Napalm girl
http://www.famouspictures.org/mag/in...am_Napalm_Girl
Interesting life story. She has started a foundation. http://www.kimfoundation.com/modules...file=intro.htm She met one of the American pilots who bombed her, and forgave him. |
11-02-2007, 01:52 PM | #2 | |
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what a great soul ! I dont think i would forgive the Iraqi pilots who have cruelly bombarded us.
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Does Islam say that it is important to forgive?
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It was a South Vietnamese pilot who conducted the bombing.
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Forgiveness is not as deep in Islam.
Reading the Qu-ran, one senses a deep sense of loss, because love and compassion are not at Islam's core. Now I imagine Mindful will try to argue otherwise, but in reading the Qu-ran, one does not feel peace or love, but tension. Forgiveness in Islam is very, very conditional. If one is not a disbeliever, if one hasn't caused other to disbelieve, and so on .... It is no wonder Muslims have trouble forgiving as their religion doesn't seem to encourage it. There is no real redemption or day of Atonement where one tries to reconcile with God. That is the emptiness I feel when studying Islam, no love. Here is a discussion which makes it sound very ritualistic and unreasonable to expect forgiveness: Quote:
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Yes ,extraordinary important and it urges us to achive the capability to overcome our internal desire to revenge ..thats why islam says that ,the challenge with the enemy inside is not slightly comparable with fighting the enemy outside ..
needs to confess, its quite difficult to be a ture muslim,but yet agian its worth what you obtain.
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Mindful, aren't there some escape clauses in the Koran. For example, if the person who offends you is a jew, you don't need to forgive.
My friend who is an Indian Muslim really HATES the mullahs in the middle east, from what I can tell. It's like how Mormons feel when they are compared to Warren Jeffs. Unfortunately in the ME there are many millions of Warren Jeffs. Unfortunately for Iran, their country may soon become a sea of glass. |
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He would need to face legal justice, and that would not result in happiness for him. Compassion and charity do not mean a person who breaks a law, necessarily escapes the governmental punishment. But it is not my place to implement that punishment. That must be done either according to the rules of war or post-war regulations. Fortunately, I am not involved in that. However, am I as a Christian allowed to harbor resentment toward him? No. Even he must be forgiven by a believer. Am I or other Christians perfect in achieving this? Not by a long shot. Of the people I harbor, improper resentments toward, he's not high on the list, though I do not think highly of his actions. I do not walk around hating him, as I have better things to do. Again a model Christian will have already forgiven him in his heart. Judge good Mormons and Christians by this standard, not by the less the good example I may set.
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since we believe any human being deserves to recieve that and it makes no difference if you are muslim , jew, christian or atheist ..etc. i have some jews friends ,and befor i hear from you , i had NO idea jews are famous for some sort of jokes.. you might not believe it ..but its truly ture. forgiveness in is an inevitable part of practicing to be a muslim which indeed requires huge effort.
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