10-14-2008, 03:56 PM | #1 |
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Prop. 8 armageddon?
Apart from the rights or wrongs of being gay or gay marriage, have any of you considered that your leaders may be right in that if gay marriage becomes accepted, legalized and normalized, this would be a serious set back, if not a death blow, to the LDS Church? I'm not sure this has been addressed here really.
I can see where they're coming from. Moreover, I'm sure that an LDS Church led by people lke 3D and Waters would not be a religion organization to reckon with.
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Oh brother ...
... I mostly lurk here these days, but when I read your posts you always seem to pose false question after false question. Pray tell, which leaders have said failure of prop 8 would be the death blow to the church, let alone a serious set back to the church. A serious set back to the morals of mankind and society, but not specifically to the church itself. Individual members may indirectly desensitize over time, but the church itself would not be destroyed any more than it was destroyed, say, in the late 1800s when the government was coming down hard on it.
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10-14-2008, 05:11 PM | #5 |
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Captain Hyperbole strikes again!
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Because of Gettysburg's outcome Lincoln was able to convince northern states the blood letting must go on. This, like his re-election victory against the incompetent general and converted pacifist McLellan, was far from assured. Are LDS leaders ignorant of the analogy they have created (possibly, given their inherent disdain for history), or do they mean it that Prop. 8 is LDS armaggedon as much as Gettysburg was an American armaggedon? Here's why I think they may be onto something. I thnk the LDS Church's whole appeal, its branding, its very goodwill, is asssociated with its distinct social conservatism, the fact that it lives in a time capsul, from its extraoridarily uncomprimising ideal of sexual morality to its magic world view. Anything that devalues that outlook in our society, that makes it less appealing or out to be immoral, devalues the LDS Church, devalues its very essesence, strikes at its heart.
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You just can't get over the fact that you chose to leave, can you?
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Let's see how smart you are. Can you address the thread on the merits?
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Kind of like, "Prop. 8 is our Gettsyburg?" Is that what you mean by "hyperbole"?
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The alleged merits are the same rehashed hatred you have for the Mormon Church. There is nothing to address.
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