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MikeWaters · 07-17-2008, 07:31 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/...ing/index.html

I really don't get this line of thinking.

So if got a suspect into the bathroom and repeatedly dunked his head in the water, to the point of having to almost resuscitate him, that is not torture?

And this is the God-fearing Christian man we are supposed to respect.

Go to hell John Ashcroft, and soon.

TripletDaddy · 07-17-2008, 07:42 PM

It seems that Ashcroft is saying that if something yields very useful information, it is not torture.

Yikes! Remind me not to piss off John Ashcroft.

If Ashcorft had a child in combat and that child were captured and waterboarded, I guess Ashcroft would simply recognize it as an advanced interrogation technique that yielded good info for the enemy?

Tex · 07-17-2008, 07:45 PM

It isn't, as per the Hitchens standard.

MikeWaters · 07-17-2008, 07:47 PM

It takes a completely immoral man to get up there and call torture non-torture if it suits his interest.

This is really what the Bush Administration is all about and why it is held in lowest regard of any administration in modern history.

T Blue · 07-17-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

It takes a completely immoral man to get up there and call torture non-torture if it suits his interest.

This is really what the Bush Administration is all about and why it is held in lowest regard of any administration in modern history.

Actually I don't think this is the reason Bush and Co. have such low marks, I think it has more to do with the fact we are in Vietnam Part Deuce.

MikeWaters · 07-17-2008, 07:55 PM

there are about a million reasons why Bush sucks.

T Blue · 07-17-2008, 07:58 PM

Is that how much you lost when the markets started down?

BlueK · 07-17-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by T Blue

Is that how much you lost when the markets started down?

Two words: Harriet Miers. Bush has made plenty of awful decisions even conservatives can't back him up on.

SeattleUte · 07-17-2008, 08:12 PM

If we can be off of fossil fuels in ten years like Gore says all of this will be over. The Arabs will return to the stone age, their oil used exclusively for lamps.

T Blue · 07-17-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueK

Two words: Harriet Miers. Bush has made plenty of awful decisions even conservatives can't back him up on.

I'm not a Bush lover, but at the same time I do give the man respect for the office; has he made mistakes: Yes

07-17-2008, 07:31 PM	#1
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,367	Ashcroft says waterboarding is not torture http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/...ing/index.html I really don't get this line of thinking. So if got a suspect into the bathroom and repeatedly dunked his head in the water, to the point of having to almost resuscitate him, that is not torture? And this is the God-fearing Christian man we are supposed to respect. Go to hell John Ashcroft, and soon.

07-17-2008, 07:42 PM	#2
TripletDaddy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 9,483	It seems that Ashcroft is saying that if something yields very useful information, it is not torture. Yikes! Remind me not to piss off John Ashcroft. If Ashcorft had a child in combat and that child were captured and waterboarded, I guess Ashcroft would simply recognize it as an advanced interrogation technique that yielded good info for the enemy? __________________ Fitter. Happier. More Productive. "Everyone is against me. Everyone is fawning for 3D's attention and defending him." -- SeattleUte

07-17-2008, 07:45 PM	#3
Tex Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8,596	It isn't, as per the Hitchens standard. __________________ "Have we been commanded not to call a prophet an insular racist? Link?" "And yes, [2010] is a very good year to be a Democrat. Perhaps the best year in decades ..." - Cali Coug "Oh dear, granny, what a long tail our puss has got." - Brigham Young Last edited by Tex; 07-17-2008 at 08:01 PM.

07-17-2008, 08:12 PM	#9
SeattleUte fairlds.org Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 10,665	If we can be off of fossil fuels in ten years like Gore says all of this will be over. The Arabs will return to the stone age, their oil used exclusively for lamps. __________________ Interrupt all you like. We're involved in a complicated story here, and not everything is quite what it seems to be. —Paul Auster

07-17-2008, 07:47 PM	#4
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,367	It takes a completely immoral man to get up there and call torture non-torture if it suits his interest. This is really what the Bush Administration is all about and why it is held in lowest regard of any administration in modern history.

07-17-2008, 07:55 PM	#6
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,367	there are about a million reasons why Bush sucks.

07-17-2008, 07:58 PM	#7
T Blue Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Down by the River in a Van Posts: 216	Is that how much you lost when the markets started down?