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Old 02-22-2008, 05:46 PM   #1
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Yes and yes.
The worst thing is how many Mormons still believe that stuff and that Jesus just changed his mind about excluding blacks. I bet an overwhelming majority do, including just about everyone from my parents' generation. It's not just harmless babbling from the distant past. Mormonism's leaders are happy to let their followers remain lost in the worst kind of abyss of ignorance. Of course.
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Old 02-22-2008, 06:39 PM   #2
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The worst thing is how many Mormons still believe that stuff and that Jesus just changed his mind about excluding blacks. I bet an overwhelming majority do, including just about everyone from my parents' generation. It's not just harmless babbling from the distant past. Mormonism's leaders are happy to let their followers remain lost in the worst kind of abyss of ignorance. Of course.
I guess it's a lot easier to blame god ("I don't know why HE did it, but we humbly followed him and were grateful when HE lifted the ban.") than the "infallible" leaders you've fixed your wagon to and constructed your entire personal, family, and community identity around.

Somehow it seems easier for these people to believe that god is a racist asshole than Joseph Fielding Smith. go figure.
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Old 02-22-2008, 06:43 PM   #3
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Somehow it seems easier for these people to believe that god is a racist asshole than Joseph Fielding Smith. go figure.
What a classic logical fallacy.
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What a classic logical fallacy.
How?
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Because the people who might believe God was behind the ban had perfectly good reasons beyond racism.

Just because mortals like prophets and rank and file members engaged in incorrect, baseless racist theories to explain the ban doesn't mean that God's motivation was borne of ancient grudges, bizarre dislike of a distinct subset of his own spiritual offspring or whatever.
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Because the people who might believe God was behind the ban had perfectly good reasons beyond racism.

Just because mortals like prophets and rank and file members engaged in incorrect, baseless racist theories to explain the ban doesn't mean that God's motivation was borne of ancient grudges, bizarre dislike of a distinct subset of his own spiritual offspring or whatever.
I don't believe God was behind the ban, but if for some reason my belief is misplaced, I would agree God isn't racist.
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Because the people who might believe God was behind the ban had perfectly good reasons beyond racism.
I'm not trying to bait you. Promise.

What kind of alternative reasons could there be?
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I'm not trying to bait you. Promise.

What kind of alternative reasons could there be?
We're not really going down this road again are we? I guess given the quotes, it was inevitable.
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I'm not trying to bait you. Promise.

What kind of alternative reasons could there be?
I'm not God. I don't have any theories on why he set the speed of light to 186,000 mps instead of 1,000,000 mps either.
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I'm not God. I don't have any theories on why he set the speed of light to 186,000 mps instead of 1,000,000 mps either.
Because that would be too fast. Duh.
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