Some people are gullible (baseball player)

[Judge Smails]

Originally Posted by exUte

are stupid enough to go to the stake president to try and overrule? They surely knew what the bishop would have told the stake president.

I tend to believe the kid. I think it was a power struggle between the two.

Under my hypothesis, the kid told his father it was for church attendance, and the bishop and stake president wouldn't tell the father otherwise due to confidentiality. In that scenario, the father isn't lying to the newspaper. He's telling them what he's been told by his son. If you think about it, it makes a lot of sense.

Again, I'm not even suggesting my hypothesis is correct. You could be right about it just being a power struggle. Without knowing anything about the story, I'm going to lean towards the bishop's discretion. Bishops are human, they are all different, and they certainly make errors, but I just can't fathom there is a bishop out there with such poor judgment as to have made the determination that the father has outlined.

It didn't happen that way...whatever happened.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Judge Smails

Under my hypothesis, the kid told his father it was for church attendance, and the bishop and stake president wouldn't tell the father otherwise due to confidentiality. In that scenario, the father isn't lying to the newspaper. He's telling them what he's been told by his son. If you think about it, it makes a lot of sense.

Again, I'm not even suggesting my hypothesis is correct. You could be right about it just being a power struggle. Without knowing anything about the story, I'm going to lean towards the bishop's discretion. Bishops are human, they are all different, and they certainly make errors, but I just can't fathom there is a bishop out there with such poor judgment as to have made the determination that the father has outlined.

It didn't happen that way...whatever happened.

Non-disclosable sources now verify it is simply a power struggle. The kid lost and the bishop won.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Non-disclosable sources now verify it is simply a power struggle. The kid lost and the bishop won.

How do you know those sources are telling the truth. How do we know they are being objective. Those sources could be lieing.

Perhaps the source you are talking about has a daughter that had improper relationships with the kid.

When it gets down to it, no one should make any judgement on this until the Bishop and the Stake President make a clear and definitive statement.

Until then believe nothing, except that priesthood leaders are to be followed and not questioned.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by BYU71

How do you know those sources are telling the truth. How do we know they are being objective. Those sources could be lieing.

Perhaps the source you are talking about has a daughter that had improper relationships with the kid.

When it gets down to it, no one should make any judgement on this until the Bishop and the Stake President make a clear and definitive statement.

Until then believe nothing, except that priesthood leaders are to be followed and not questioned.

Well, according to smails, the kid is probably selling his soul on craig'slist while running the Hillary for President campaign out of his closet.

[Judge Smails]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Non-disclosable sources now verify it is simply a power struggle. The kid lost and the bishop won.

Non-dislosable sources. Damn! I stand corrected.

May the athlete who plays a sport I don't care about, with a name I had never heard before, that I can't remember now, that I don't wish to even take the time to look up again, be added to the martyr list somewhere between Stephen and Hyrum Smith.

I have sources who've verified Bronco Mendenhall is one of the 3 Nephites. No, I can't disclose who's told me that, but I believe them.

What exactly would your non-disclosable source find out about the situation? Did they give the Bishop truth serum on a scout overnighter?

Confidentiality will keep the other side of the story from ever being told.

I also probably ought to break the news to you - racist LA cops didn't plant the bloody glove.

[Judge Smails]

Originally Posted by Judge Smails

May the athlete who plays a sport I don't care about.

I do wonder how I'd react if this happened to a key football/basketball player. I probably would be sober enough to realize they weren't kicked out for church attendance, but I may have kept that opinion to myself in hopes I was wrong.

[BYU71]

Originally Posted by Judge Smails

I do wonder how I'd react if this happened to a key football/basketball player. I probably would be sober enough to realize they weren't kicked out for church attendance, but I may have kept that opinion to myself in hopes I was wrong.

Depends on the player. Walk on return missionary, gone.

Hall or Cummard, good luck Bishop on getting them booted. That fact probably pisses some Bishops off.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Judge Smails

Non-dislosable sources. Damn! I stand corrected.

May the athlete who plays a sport I don't care about, with a name I had never heard before, that I can't remember now, that I don't wish to even take the time to look up again, be added to the martyr list somewhere between Stephen and Hyrum Smith.

I have sources who've verified Bronco Mendenhall is one of the 3 Nephites. No, I can't disclose who's told me that, but I believe them.

What exactly would your non-disclosable source find out about the situation? Did they give the Bishop truth serum on a scout overnighter?

Confidentiality will keep the other side of the story from ever being told.

I also probably ought to break the news to you - racist LA cops didn't plant the bloody glove.

We here at CG have means and ways of verifying things which you little people don't. We now can state with reasonable authority that the bishop was out of line.

Nondisclosable means we won't disclose to YOU. We're certain that you are now more comfortable and can go back to the place from whence you came.

[Judge Smails]

Originally Posted by Archaea

We here at CG have means and ways of verifying things which you little people don't.

Nondisclosable means we won't disclose to YOU.

The funny thing is I believe you think that's true.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by Judge Smails

The funny thing is I believe you think that's true.

You wish it weren't.