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We have examples in our scriptures when people were "justifiably" murdered because they might have caused spiritual harm to others. In this way, we have something in common with Islam. The difference is that these scriptural examples are viewed by many as very distant and perhaps even allegorical (fictional) stories. In other words, most of us don't really believe that God wants us to kill people because they do spiritual damage to others. So, your beliefs and our beliefs have something in common, from a scriptural perspective. Many Mormons might even acknowledge that Mohammed was a prophet. The problem is that you guys interpret scripture too literally, and this is a form of fanaticism. Extreme Islam seems barbaric and bloodthirsty to us, especially when we see that people are willing (and feel justified) to kill each other over such trivial things as a book, and all in the name of religion. I realize that the Koran is the center of your faith, and that it's perceived by many Muslims as horribly disrespectful that Rushdie wrote his book about the Satanic Verses. But people write books mocking the Book of Mormon or Mormon beliefs all the time, and we just roll with it, and life is much more civil. It's a lot easier to have a normal society when you're not trying to kill people over books. There is no need to play medieval games with fatwas and hukms and killing people over their words. |
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And thus we see what happens when nobody wishes to be civil, I give Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya et al.
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and we see what happens when somebody wishes to give others democracy and civilization agianst thier will ,i give Iraq ,Afghanistan....
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but you should notice that i am NOT going to make a god of ayatollah khomeini nor an immaculate person but to oppose to his fatwa you ought be knowing the principals and the knowledge .
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06-21-2007, 01:47 PM | #67 |
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Mindfulcoug, to put it as succinctly as I can:
If your society persists on trying to kill our society because of what you perceive as our spiritual offences....we will have no choice but to defend ourselves. Do not superimpose your values onto us. We don't go to Iran and kill people because of their "honor" killings, even though it deeply offends us. Unfortunately, many in the West have come to the conclusion that Muslims have a death wish. I wish it were not so. |
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The critics including those issueing fatwas as their criticism?
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Afghanistan was self-defense. Iraq was a mistake. I did not and do not support the war but I hope for the safe return of our soldiers. Nonetheless, we can see how Islamicists prefer anarchy and chaos to successful, technologically advanced societies.
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