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Just got around to reviewing the Saddleback "debate." Here's quick side-by-side answers to key questions.
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Flash and I did not have a prenatal diagnosis for our son. So I in no way meant to suggest that we are among the brave 10% who choose to keep a child, knowing full well the difficulties that may lie ahead. All I meant was that it hurts me to think how many couples would have deliberately discarded a little person much like our son. I just wanted to clarify that. |
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Really? That's your most gut-wrenching decision? Honestly? There was no risk involved, no personal sacrifice, no real payoff or loss, yet it wrenched his guts. Shows what a very vacuous life Obama has led.
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The Saddleback forum showed that Obama just can't work without advance notice or a teleprompter. He actually had to think on the spot. Watching him was like watching Wylie E. Coyote missing the roadrunner and plummeting to the canyon floor below. It was great entertainment.
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He made this decision as a Illinois state senator. He had no jurisdiction, nobody's life was impacted by his decision, few people were even listening. I fail to see the risk involved, or the significance. But you do. I can respect that.
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The Obama campaign is very happy to point to his October 2, 2002 remarks opposing the war. Apparently it was before that time that he made his life's most "gut wrenching" decision. The timing isn't consistent with your view of "his statement as meaning more than just the initial decision on whether or not to invade." Obama was pretty clear in his answer. This all happened before he was a national politician, before he even had any jurisdiction over national policy. That he has repeated his decision after gaining a national platform is irrelevant in the context of "his most gut wrenching decision." Or are you suggesting that he waivered in his conviction since becoming a U.S. Senator, took another look and then came back to his original decision? Is that the gut-wrenching decision we are talking about? Has he not been so steadfast in his judgement? If so, that would be interestinng to explore. Obama's campaign has been pretty consistent on when and where he has stood on the war. It all goes back to October 2, 2002 and before.
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