Obama approval rating down to 59%

[Tex]

Originally Posted by All-American

I doubt very much that you deeply regret the misunderstanding. As for the point itself, it seems to me you had no point. In fact, I notice that you often go to great lengths to avoid actually making a point. It's part of your charm.

You treat the supplied pieces of evidence as though they suggest a self-evident thought: that Americans are becoming disillusioned now that they are seeing the Obama machine in action. Another person (myself among them) may look at those numbers and hear another message: that the numbers tell us absolutely nothing this early in the game. As long as evidence can have such diverse interpretations, you are not absolved of your responsibility of stating your thesis.

Unless, of course, you don't really care if anybody follows your train of thought. If that happens to be the case, however, one must wonder why you're still talking. I doubt you believe you will win anybody over this late in the game; likely, you just like hearing the sound of your own voice. Either way, I'll not apologize for your insufficient command of written English.

Thanks. I'll try to state my "thesis" more clearly, maybe with footnotes. (This is still an Internet message board, right? Someone check for me.)

In any case, I'm genuinely sorry to have gotten you all riled up, so I apologize to you for the pea-brained comment. (Cali still has a pea-brain though). You and I had no beef before, and I really don't need any new adversaries. Not that there are many left around anymore.

Cheers.

[Ma'ake]

Inheriting the worst economic crisis in 70+ years from his predecessor, along with a sprinkle of cheap populist politics on the part of Rush Limbaugh & the GOP, have nothing to do with the President's ratings.

LOL

As for narratives, Tex, can you give us your best guess that parallels Bush's rise to the peak of his presidency in 9 months, post 9-11, with nearly the whole world behind him & US, followed by the long slide based on an enormous catalog of idiotic statements and missteps?

[Tex]

Originally Posted by Ma'ake

Inheriting the worst economic crisis in 70+ years from his predecessor, along with a sprinkle of cheap populist politics on the part of Rush Limbaugh & the GOP, have nothing to do with the President's ratings.

LOL

As for narratives, Tex, can you give us your best guess that parallels Bush's rise to the peak of his presidency in 9 months, post 9-11, with nearly the whole world behind him & US, followed by the long slide based on an enormous catalog of idiotic statements and missteps?

Actually, all I was really highlighting was the irony of the start of these two presidencies. Bush came into office under a cloud, Obama on top of one. Yet their approval ratings end up being pretty much the same after a number of weeks. Pretty amusing, in my book.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by Tex

Actually, all I was really highlighting was the irony of the start of these two presidencies. Bush came into office under a cloud, Obama on top of one. Yet their approval ratings end up being pretty much the same after a number of weeks. Pretty amusing, in my book.

You are really stretching, Tex.

Sure, the elections of Obama and Bush were quite different. Bush effectively won the election through the courts, Obama won a clear mandate. You then want to suggest that a parallel in their respective popularity so soon into Obama's respective presidency shows that Obama has really fallen. This is just silly.

What you fail to note are the other circumstances the two men faced upon taking office. Obama was faced with the threat of economic collapse, war being fought in two nations concurrently, the largest loss of jobs in over two decades, etc. Perhaps the rosy circumstances you paint for Obama's entrance into the presidency are... overstated?

That and the fact that almost all other opinion polls seem to indicate much higher support right now for Obama suggest that, once again, you don't have a point.

[exUte]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

You are really stretching, Tex.

Sure, the elections of Obama and Bush were quite different. Bush effectively won the election through the courts, Obama won a clear mandate. You then want to suggest that a parallel in their respective popularity so soon into Obama's respective presidency shows that Obama has really fallen. This is just silly.

What you fail to note are the other circumstances the two men faced upon taking office. Obama was faced with the threat of economic collapse, war being fought in two nations concurrently, the largest loss of jobs in over two decades, etc. Perhaps the rosy circumstances you paint for Obama's entrance into the presidency are... overstated?

That and the fact that almost all other opinion polls seem to indicate much higher support right now for Obama suggest that, once again, you don't have a point.

Show me one recount that would have changed the votes in Florida and the outcome of the election. BTW, wasn't it the Florida supreme court who initially inserted themselves. That's when the election became a legal exercise.

[exUte]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

You are really stretching, Tex.

Sure, the elections of Obama and Bush were quite different. Bush effectively won the election through the courts, Obama won a clear mandate. You then want to suggest that a parallel in their respective popularity so soon into Obama's respective presidency shows that Obama has really fallen. This is just silly.

What you fail to note are the other circumstances the two men faced upon taking office. Obama was faced with the threat of economic collapse, war being fought in two nations concurrently, the largest loss of jobs in over two decades, etc. Perhaps the rosy circumstances you paint for Obama's entrance into the presidency are... overstated?

That and the fact that almost all other opinion polls seem to indicate much higher support right now for Obama suggest that, once again, you don't have a point.

remind me again why we are in this economic mess? what brought us here? Bush or the Dem controlled congress the previous two years. Who writes the checks? The white house or congress?

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by exUte

remind me again why we are in this economic mess? what brought us here? Bush or the Dem controlled congress the previous two years. Who writes the checks? The white house or congress?

Are you for real, exie? I don't think you have a clue about how the government actually runs. Are you under the impression that Congress just writes checks and the executive can't do anything about it? Really? Are you under the impression that the economic mess was caused by the last 2 years of having Democrats control the House and the Senate?

You amuse me, exie. Always good for a laugh.

[Tex]

Rasmussen reports Obama has been holding at 56% for 4 days.

The difference between "strongly approve" and "strongly disapprove" has narrowed to +6 from +28, after inauguration.



Also, in the wake of the "who's leading Republicans" nonsense, 68% of Republicans see their party as leaderless. Only 2% identify Rush Limbaugh as their leader.

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by Tex

Rasmussen reports Obama has been holding at 56% for 4 days.

The difference between "strongly approve" and "strongly disapprove" has narrowed to +6 from +28, after inauguration.



Also, in the wake of the "who's leading Republicans" nonsense, 68% of Republicans see their party as leaderless. Only 2% identify Rush Limbaugh as their leader.

Only a 3% drop, when dealing with the largest financial crisis since the great depression? That is remarkable. Well done, Mr. President.

At least you are coming around to the notion that it is preferrable that your party be leaderless as opposed to being run by Limbaugh. If only the 2% surveyed didn't include Michael Steele and the rest of the so-called "leadership" of your leaderless and rudderless party.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by Cali Coug

Only a 3% drop, when dealing with the largest financial crisis since the great depression? That is remarkable. Well done, Mr. President.

Yeah, you just go ahead and ignore the 150% increase in "strongly disapprove" in only 6 weeks' time.