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TripletDaddy · 05-17-2008, 07:10 PM

Looks like everyone is running to take advantage of the new California ruling.

Colly Wolly · 05-17-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

That is the point. What argument leads us to define it as one man and one woman?

This one. The heathens won't like it, but it is a BYU/LDS Church related board after all.

http://www.lds.org/library/display/0...1-11-1,00.html

Mars · 05-17-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalCoug

So you would deny the ability to marry to nonreligious people?

God will do that himself after their death, should they remain as they are. That is my personal belief and that of the LDS Church.

Cali Coug · 05-17-2008, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Colly Wolly

This one. The heathens won't like it, but it is a BYU/LDS Church related board after all.

http://www.lds.org/library/display/0...1-11-1,00.html

Why in the world should that be the basis of our government's actions? Our government is expressly secular.

MikeWaters · 05-17-2008, 11:40 PM

has anyone responded to my "what is best for society" framework that I posted in one of the threads, that is, society has the right to incentivize certain kinds of unions over others.

Colly Wolly · 05-17-2008, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

Why in the world should that be the basis of our government's actions? Our government is expressly secular.

Who knows, not necessarily saying it should.

Then there is this last line....

"We call upon responsible citizens and officers of government everywhere to promote those measures designed to maintain and strengthen the family as the fundamental unit of society."

Colly Wolly · 05-18-2008, 12:06 AM

Forgot about this little line. Hinckley sounds like a raving lunatic here.

"Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets."

Tex · 05-18-2008, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

So your argument is... tradition? What is the tradition based on? Not a real compelling argument there, Tex. Particularly since polygamy probably has a longer tradition than monogamy throughout history.

Call it societal stare decisis.

UtahDan · 05-18-2008, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tex

Call it societal stare decisis.

I officially think you are an attorney.

TripletDaddy · 05-18-2008, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by UtahDan

I officially think you are an attorney.

I also officially think Tex is not posting from Texas.

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05-17-2008, 11:40 PM	#55
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,368	has anyone responded to my "what is best for society" framework that I posted in one of the threads, that is, society has the right to incentivize certain kinds of unions over others.

05-18-2008, 12:06 AM	#57
Colly Wolly Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,281	Forgot about this little line. Hinckley sounds like a raving lunatic here. "Further, we warn that the disintegration of the family will bring upon individuals, communities, and nations the calamities foretold by ancient and modern prophets."