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In fact, I wouldn't have a problem if you anti-gay marriage folks would just cast this as a moral issue and leave it at that. But as the Wasington Post article linked by MRD (which criticized pro gay marriage advocates for targeting Mormons for special criticism) stated, "The Yes on 8 campaign has been cynically skillful in changing the subject from whether gays deserve marriage equality to more highly charged questions. Will churches be sued for refusing to marry gay couples? Or will young children have to be taught about same-sex marriage in schools?" Another one we've heard here, government would revoke religions' tax exempt status. These are all lies. But the article urged "progressive groups" to not get into the gutter with pro propositon 8 groups including Mormons.
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Sorry. I can turn anything into boobs.
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There are plenty of instances of "god-ordained" bigotry, if you believe in that sort of thing. Sometimes religions aren't very "moral" in contemporaneous or future contexts.
In my opinion, this is just another brick in that wall.
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I believe this and wonder if there isn't some level of concern that it passed. Seriously. I think most people who worked hard on the campaign really don't want to do it again. Ever. But they will if asked. If Prop 8 had failed, the debate on gay marriage would be essentially over. Now, Church members may be spending vast additional amounts of time, money and social capital on the matter.
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this whole conversation is such a waste of time. let me know when you figure out how to organize rational, fact-based arguments, Rocko.
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They say there's a first time for everything....
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If so, prove it. (Oh wait. You can't. My bad.) You're a piece of work.
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