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I would expect that most were already disposed to vote "yes," so The Church's stance only strengthened their resolve. I would think that when discussing the issue with "wavering" members, this group would surely invoke the "the Prophet has spoken arguement" to strengthen their own case, but not neccissarily as the primary reason for their decisions. Would this be true? Then there would two smaller groups: - those not disposed to vote "yes," but that through some process decided that obedience trumped their own reservations. - those that opposed the proposition and no amount of "the prophet has spoken" argumentation could sway them. I suppose there would also be a small group of non-thinkers that followed like zombies. Am I anywhere close here? I guess my point is that Mormons, in general, are already a pretty conservative bunch. Most were going to vote "yes" anyway. The Church merely mobilized them to action. Does that make sense?
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11-05-2008, 04:56 PM | #42 | |
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I don't see her as a lemming. She was acting out of faith. Personally, of all the reasons to vote Yes on 8, I think the faith-based one is the best one. I know CatBlue thinks my wife is a lemming, but I think CatBlue is a lemming, too, so hey, CatBlue.....who's the lemming now, lemming?
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It would be interesting if we could somehow know how (approx) many active LDS are there in CA and how many of them wound up voting Yes.
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Maybe Romney was inspired to drop out of the race because his presence would have hurt Prop 8, which passed by only 4%. Or maybe he's such a pampous prick that he has become closed off from normal inspiration, yet was wise enough to foresee the hypocracy and was afraid of being judged with blood on his hands.
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I'm not sure if this fits into any of your groups, but there is also a group that may be more socially liberal who may have been inclined to vote "No", but by virute of their callings in the church felt obligated to sustain the local and general authorities of the church by donating, canvassing and voting "Yes". Trust me, this is a very tough spot to be in. I'm not at all surprised that many in this group supported the Proposition. Unless you are fairly firm in your convictions to the contrary, its just not worth the hassle of trying to swim upstream on something this big. |
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I obviously don't think the Mormon church is a cult, or I would not be a member. But we've had plenty of discussions on here over this issue and there are a handful of people who use "the prophet said so" as their only justification for their position. For people who hear this counsel, study it out in their mind, and obtain some sort of confirmation, more power to them; my wife would belong in this group. I may be wrong, but it sure seems there are a fair number of us who haven't put in this type of effort and are hiding behind "the prophet said so". This may not be unique to Mormonism, but with how strongly we are organized, the Mormon leadership has particular power over this segment. |
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I live in Tennessee. I don't expect anything like this coming our way in a long time.
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