The idea that the prophet can never lead the church astray

[Tex]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

If you read the OT and BoM you will see that it is quite easy for an entire church to fall into apostasy and wickedness.

Hmm, we could debate the leadership's role in those instances, but that aside, we have Joseph (among others) pretty clearly indicating that such is not God's purpose in the latter days.

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Tex

Hmm, we could debate the leadership's role in those instances, but that aside, we have Joseph (among others) pretty clearly indicating that such is not God's purpose in the latter days.

See Adam's recent post on Samuel the Lamanite.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

If you read the OT and BoM you will see that it is quite easy for an entire church to fall into apostasy and wickedness.

Has that happened since 1830?

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Has that happened since 1830?

depends on who you ask.

[Indy Coug]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

depends on who you ask.

I'm asking you. My answer is "no".

[MikeWaters]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

I'm asking you. My answer is "no".

seemingly not to the definition, as I understand it from the scriptures.

But who am I to judge, as I doubt those that were called wicked thought they were.

The materialism that is decried in the BoM, are we not to that level? I don't know.

[Tex]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

See Adam's recent post on Samuel the Lamanite.

Help me out.

[Flystripper]

Originally Posted by T Blue

If the church, as you say, is possibly led astray, who's to say it isn't there right now?

it is always a possibility.

[Flystripper]

Originally Posted by Indy Coug

Would he "let" it without serious warning to the person He entrusted with leading his church or without serious repercussions if that person failed to heed the serious warnings?

No idea