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CES directors are a dime a dozen and don't know anything more than you or I. This guy doesn't sound scholarly, Seattle just loves him because he supports his preconceptions. Usually views any CES employee with complete contempt, utterly worthless, ignorant as useless pieces of crap. Suddenly a piece of crap becomes a polished turd once he turns on the Church. That doesn't all of a sudden improve his "scholarship." Disaffecteds stop being so transparent.
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I take classes from CES employees. I don't believe half of what they teach. I sleep through the other half.
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Somehow I have this sneaking suspicion this is not why he was disfellowshipped.
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It's one thing to desire a more Christ-centric worship and another thing entirely to be professing faith in the Gospel all the while trying to shoot holes in virtually everything to do with the founding events of the Restoration.
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I'm having a hard time visualizing the stake president filling out the disciplinary form, and in the "reason for disfellowshipping" box he puts, "wants more focus on Christ." |
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Now, as to why it is important: the book is almost as one sided as the history presented by the LDS church itself, only (obviously) in the other direction. As such, IMO, it is a great complement to what folks learn in church. Second, epistemology is a one way street in the church. "You can find out if this is TRUE." But don't dare ask how you would know if it's false. Testimony building is a terribly unfair and onesided process that demands that nobody ever question whether it might NOT be true. This book allows the non-technical access to the other side of the coin. It provokes the question: "Okay, if it's NOT true, how WOULD I know it?" IMO a knowledge of any "truth" requires dealing with this question as earnestly as "How would I know IF it were true". |
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07-23-2007, 07:09 PM | #39 | |
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2. Lighten up, Adam. You're being unnecessarily vindictive.
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I don't think "focus on Christ" and "focus on the Restoration" have to be mutually exclusive. |
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