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Actually it happens more than people irrationally and stubbornly refuse to believe.
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When you can point to a significant number of 'phantom fouls' called for Kobe, and show that it happens consistently, I'll concede that it happens more often than I currently believe. I won't be holding my breath. BTW, a few stats to ponder: Kobe is 2nd in the playoffs in Field Goal Attempts per game, at 22.4. Kobe is 3rd in the playoffs in Free Throw Attempts per game, at 12.2. You'd think that, among players with at least 4 FGA per game, he'd be way up there at the top in terms of a FGA to FTA ratio. After removing players with less than four games played in the playoffs, and then removing players with less than 4 FGA per game, Kobe (1.84) ends up #15 in FGA/FTA. Behind such players as Shaq (which makes sense), Reggie Evans (1.08), Leon Powe (1.26), and Brandon Bass (1.44). So yes, I'd agree that Kobe might get a call for "superstar treatment" that some others don't. I simply don't believe these calls amount to much.
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It seems pretty obvious, to me, that Kobe is far more athletic & gifted than nearly any other player today. He therefore is fouled far more often than most players, since that's all the defender can do to stop him.
Fans of opposing teams, obviously, will become frustrated by his frequent visits to the charity stripe. Which, understandably, leads to the belief that he doesn't deserve the foul shots he gets. But the notion that he frequently gets 'star treatment', and frequently gets calls that other, lesser players won't get, is blown far out of proportion with reality.
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Anytime you want to make an argument grounded in factual reality then please feel free.
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You don't seem capable of responding to the stats that show you're wrong, so by all means, fall back to making snide comments.
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05-06-2008, 05:36 PM | #38 |
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So Kobe is avg 12 Ft/game....and yet it took all of one game in the series to break a Lakers Free throw record.
Do you really have the irrational contention that Superstars in the league don't get preferential treatment? And I'm not just referring to Kobe either.
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FWIW, in the last three years, Kobe's FTA/game has dropped from 10.2 to 10.0 to 9.1 in 07-08. His FGA/game has also dropped each of those years - although most drastically between the season ending in '06 & the season ending in '07. In response to the part of the post you added... No. As I've stated, the preferential treatment exists. I simply don't think it's as prevalent as you apparently do. In fact, I'd suggest that the opposite effect is more prevalent - the scrubs not getting calls they should because they suck. BTW, you're heading back into the "Rocky's fallback argument" position by adding the word 'irrational' to your question. You'd be far better off if you'd make a rational argument yourself rather than simply mocking the arguments of others. But, you don't seem capable of making such an argument.
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Since you refuse to believe so, in spite of years of factual history proving me right, you and your "argument" has earned the right to be mocked.
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