We're screwed

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Chino, just accept the fact that your political hero made a bad economy worse.

Actually, the hero born of women has crushed the serpent with his heel. He repaired credit markets so credit is flowing again. Soon, industrial will be back up and so will employment.

We'll be back in business pretty soon

[Cali Coug]

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Chino, just accept the fact that your political hero made a bad economy worse.

Based on what?

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

Allow me to unscramble your gobbledeegook:

1. We'll don't know the effect of the stimulus.
2. If the economy tanks so will Obama.

While you're at it, would you mind interpreting this economic data for me?



I think it's something to do with lawyers and the economy.

Thanks in advance.

And although such analyses are useful, if you want me or anybody else to believe they are conclusive in establishing causation, then blow it out your ass.

Liquidity has not been adequately restored to the credit markets, the toxic assets have been over-valued. If you believe otherwise, try getting a loan in Vegas.

So you studied economics at BYU where we're not exactly at the top of the food chain in that arena. And by most estimations, economics, though fascinating in explaining emotional human behavior, is far from a physical science. The explanations are interesting and studies can be fashioned based on one's biases to explain what the scholar "believes" is occurring based upon the techniques of the industry, which is overal skewed toward a Keynsian format.

You'll get no argument from me that a country will benefit more from a culture which encourages engineers and peoples building and manufacturing goods. My own children are geared for that very reason toward engineering and architecture. A developed nation which has no industrial and technological base has no future in my opinion. Ours is obviously dwindling.

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by Archaea

And although such analyses are useful, if you want me or anybody else to believe they are conclusive in establishing causation, then blow it out your ass.

Liquidity has not been adequately restored to the credit markets, the toxic assets have been over-valued. If you believe otherwise, try getting a loan in Vegas.

So you studied economics at BYU where we're not exactly at the top of the food chain in that arena. And by most estimations, economics, though fascinating in explaining emotional human behavior, is far from a physical science. The explanations are interesting and studies can be fashioned based on one's biases to explain what the scholar "believes" is occurring based upon the techniques of the industry, which is overal skewed toward a Keynsian format.

You'll get no argument from me that a country will benefit more from a culture which encourages engineers and peoples building and manufacturing goods. My own children are geared for that very reason toward engineering and architecture. A developed nation which has no industrial and technological base has no future in my opinion. Ours is obviously dwindling.

So would you argue against that a country that expends its talent in lobbying the government, seeking special favors, and transferring wealth around without peoples building and manufacturing goods has no future?

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by Archaea

And although such analyses are useful, if you want me or anybody else to believe they are conclusive in establishing causation, then blow it out your ass.

Liquidity has not been adequately restored to the credit markets, the toxic assets have been over-valued. If you believe otherwise, try getting a loan in Vegas.

So you studied economics at BYU where we're not exactly at the top of the food chain in that arena. And by most estimations, economics, though fascinating in explaining emotional human behavior, is far from a physical science. The explanations are interesting and studies can be fashioned based on one's biases to explain what the scholar "believes" is occurring based upon the techniques of the industry, which is overal skewed toward a Keynsian format.

You'll get no argument from me that a country will benefit more from a culture which encourages engineers and peoples building and manufacturing goods. My own children are geared for that very reason toward engineering and architecture. A developed nation which has no industrial and technological base has no future in my opinion. Ours is obviously dwindling.

by the way, try getting a loan outside of Las Vegas and Phoenix. Much easier. I got a home loan for 5.375%.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

by the way, try getting a loan outside of Las Vegas and Phoenix. Much easier. I got a home loan for 5.375%.

fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

Who cares about byu economists any way.

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by Archaea

fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

Who cares about byu economists any way.

1. How do you know undergrad economics is low on the food chain? By what metric?
2. What makes you think I've stopped at BYU?

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

1. How do you know undergrad economics is low on the food chain? By what metric?
2. What makes you think I've stopped at BYU?

1. I've seen the rankings and BYU ranks lowly in most things unfortunately. Administration doesn't give a damn about improving its rankings. Administration only cares about its devotionals.

2. Who cares? Don't even respond. Mormon wannabes are silly. Let me know when a BYU related graduate actually wins a Nobel Prize in Economics. And that person happens to be you.

[ChinoCoug]

Originally Posted by Archaea

1. I've seen the rankings and BYU ranks lowly in most things unfortunately. Administration doesn't give a damn about improving its rankings. Administration only cares about its devotionals.

2. Who cares? Don't even respond. Mormon wannabes are silly. Let me know when a BYU related graduate actually wins a Nobel Prize in Economics. And that person happens to be you.

This reminds me of the silly but fun discussion about Obama's scholastic achievements. BYU's rankings have been on an upward trajectory since they've had rankings. They've plummeted recently, but rankings are a noisy time series. Anyhow, take a look at BYU's economics department:

Mark Showalter: Sr. Economist, White House Council of Economic Advisers

James Kearl: Special Asst. to the Secretary of Defense, Special Asst. to US Trade
Representative , National Bureau of Economic Research

James McDonald: pioneer in distribution families

Val Lambson: among leading pure theorists

Kerk Philips: U.S. Congress Joint Economic Committee

great representation in policymaking, data collection, empirics and theory

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by ChinoCoug

This reminds me of the silly but fun discussion about Obama's scholastic achievements. BYU's rankings have been on an upward trajectory since they've had rankings. They've plummeted recently, but rankings are a noisy time series. Anyhow, take a look at BYU's economics department:

Mark Showalter: Sr. Economist, White House Council of Economic Advisers

James Kearl: Special Asst. to the Secretary of Defense, Special Asst. to US Trade
Representative , National Bureau of Economic Research

James McDonald: pioneer in distribution families

Val Lambson: among leading pure theorists

Kerk Philips: U.S. Congress Joint Economic Committee

great representation in policymaking, data collection, empirics and theory

That impresses you? You're too easily impressed. Go look at a real economics department. Of course, they're mostly socialists, Keynsian economists and what not, but that's not much. I may be mistaken, but it seems I know Kearl, and he's not a bad guy if I remember correctly.

Except in Accounting and Engineering, BYU has plummeted in most departments. BYU law is in shambles, when it was once a proud school headed upwards. Our most recent Dean is a guy, who is probably a great human being, but with limited or no outside connections, as opposed to past Presidents.

Its students stay too frequently in Utah. It is too concerned with the appearnce of religiositiy rather than the actual devotion to spirituality and devotion to humanity.

BYU's research aim is pathetic, (what is it research in comparison to let's say, University of Texas at Austin?) it will never achieve Ivy League status and hires too frequently from within. Its staff ris limited in what it can publish and administration does nothing to promote its successful professors.

We need to stop hiring GAs as university presidents. They don't belong there!