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Old 05-27-2009, 07:20 PM   #1
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[QUOTE=Tex;305634]I hate to say "nonsense" yet again to one of your points, BlueK, but it's too fitting. I don't think you can find any Bush statement that can be fairly construed to indicate he believed he was "divinely called" to be president in the sense you mean it.[QUOTE]

It's not nonsense. It's well documented that he shared that idea with his personal spiritual advisor as well as with several others. It's not a secret he felt "called" to the job. I realize I'm using my own LDS terminology to describe it. If you feel qualified to determine feeling like God wanted you to be president doesn't mean the same to him than it does to me, then have at it, I suppose.

But there is no leftist spin on some of the things Mike Huckabee has said about using the Bible as his guide if he were president. I heard him say that. He said that in the debates. I realize he takes it one step further in his public speech than Bush did.
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Old 05-27-2009, 07:26 PM   #2
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It's not nonsense. It's well documented that he shared that idea with his personal spiritual advisor as well as with several others. It's not a secret he felt "called" to the job. I realize I'm using my own LDS terminology to describe it.
Feeling like you received God's help in your job, and justifying every action you take in that job in the name of God, are two very different things.

You're accusing Bush of the latter, and it's ridiculous.

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Mike Huckabee was not elected president. If that ever changes, then I'll revisit my statement.
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Feeling like you received God's help in your job, and justifying every action you take in that job in the name of God, are two very different things.

You're accusing Bush of the latter, and it's ridiculous.



Mike Huckabee was not elected president. If that ever changes, then I'll revisit my statement.
Ridiculous because you say so. Neither one of us can get into his head, but there are plenty of people close to him who say his policies were a direct result of his religious beliefs. I don't think it's that extreme of an opinion. And that's why the RR annoys me. They freak out about someone like Romney. But they think mixing church and state is great when it's their church being mixed.

The only thing different about Mike Huckabee is that he takes it a step further in his speech. He won't be president, but I think they'll nominate him.
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Ridiculous because you say so. Neither one of us can get into his head, but there are plenty of people close to him who say his policies were a direct result of his religious beliefs. I don't think it's that extreme of an opinion. And that's why the RR annoys me. They freak out about someone like Romney. But they think mixing church and state is great when it's their church being mixed.
I'm simply forming my opinion on the body of Bush statements as I recall them. If you have some silver bullet quote you'd like to show me to change my mind, feel free.

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I highly doubt that, but what do I know. I never thought they'd nominate John McCain.
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I highly doubt that, but what do I know. I never thought they'd nominate John McCain.
If they nominate Mark Sanford I'd strongly consider voting for him.
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The only thing different about Mike Huckabee is that he takes it a step further in his speech. He won't be president, but I think they'll nominate him.
No way he's nominated. He had his shot and flamed out. Same with Mitt.
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No way he's nominated. He had his shot and flamed out. Same with Mitt.
I don't think so. He's working hard right now and has a head start on money and volunteers over pretty much everyone else. Plus he has his own TV show. He's hugely popular in the south right now. He may not get the nomination but he's not going away any time soon.
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I don't think so. He's working hard right now and has a head start on money and volunteers over pretty much everyone else. Plus he has his own TV show. He's hugely popular in the south right now. He may not get the nomination but he's not going away any time soon.
Oh, he's trying, but he won't get the nomination.
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Feeling like you received God's help in your job, and justifying every action you take in that job in the name of God, are two very different things.

You're accusing Bush of the latter, and it's ridiculous.



Mike Huckabee was not elected president. If that ever changes, then I'll revisit my statement.
It isn't ridiculous when we are discussing Bush. Did you note that intelligence briefing memos all carried biblical scriptures on the cover of the memos, frequently with Bible artwork as well?

The guy thought he was an agent of the Lord as president.
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It isn't ridiculous when we are discussing Bush. Did you note that intelligence briefing memos all carried biblical scriptures on the cover of the memos, frequently with Bible artwork as well?
I don't know what you think that proves. No one's disputing that religion was a big part of what guided Bush. Personally I think it's quite a jump to go from that to "George Bush, Holy Vessel of God." But this is all highly subjective anyway.
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