I'm going to take this gun control argument

[Indy Coug]

The only thing a BB gun will stop is a Frenchman.

[Spaz]

I'm all for the right to carry arms. I don't own a gun myself, but have been considering getting one. I'll probably hold off until I can afford to do it right...get a good gun safe, etc.

My dad had some hunting rifles in his closet most of my life. I knew where they were, and occasionally snuck in to check them out. He'd taken a vital part of the firing mechanism out (can't remember offhand what it was), and kept them hidden (I was never able to find them, although I never looked particularly hard. I was more afraid of stumbling onto my parent's collection of lingerie, and the associated nightmares).


I guess, my contribution to the thread is:
-People shouldn't be REQUIRED to own guns.
-People shouldn't be REQUIRED to NOT own guns.
-There should be a realistic standard of responsibility required for anyone wishing to purchase a gun.

[TripletDaddy]

This discussion reminds me of a snippet from Bowling for Columbine.

Michael Moore is talking to James Nichols at his home and James is discussing his views on the OKC bombing and the investigation that followed.

James claimed to sleep with a loaded .44 under his pillow. Michael Moore questions whether he is exaggerating. After some coaxing, James takes Moore over to his pillow and, sure enough, a loaded .44 under his pillow.

I guess I dont see the need. Maybe I live in a bubble or ignorant of the peril all around me. Thank goodness.

I also found it interesting that Moore continues his conversation with Nichols and a discussion about the right to bear arms ensues. The question becomes, "at what point do we impost limits on which "arms" people can bear?" Since the constitution does not specifically mention guns, is weapons-grade plutonium my right to own in my house? Can I arm myself with that?

I will pass on the guns and hopefully nobody breaks into my house. And if someone breaks into my house, they can have my TV. I can always buy another.

[Venkman]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

This discussion reminds me of a snippet from Bowling for Columbine.

Michael Moore is talking to James Nichols at his home and James is discussing his views on the OKC bombing and the investigation that followed.

James claimed to sleep with a loaded .44 under his pillow. Michael Moore questions whether he is exaggerating. After some coaxing, James takes Moore over to his pillow and, sure enough, a loaded .44 under his pillow.

I guess I dont see the need. Maybe I live in a bubble or ignorant of the peril all around me. Thank goodness.

I also found it interesting that Moore continues his conversation with Nichols and a discussion about the right to bear arms ensues. The question becomes, "at what point do we impost limits on which "arms" people can bear?" Since the constitution does not specifically mention guns, is weapons-grade plutonium my right to own in my house? Can I arm myself with that?

I will pass on the guns and hopefully nobody breaks into my house. And if someone breaks into my house, they can have my TV. I can always buy another.

arms = firearms

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Venkman

arms = firearms

It just says arms. Not firearms.

Also, if you want to go the legislative intent route, it could be argued that the right to bear firearms was to be extended while serving in a malitia. If you arent in a malitia, you dont need the firearms. Or a .44 under your pillow.

[Venkman]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

It just says arms. Not firearms.

Also, if you want to go the legislative intent route, it could be argued that the right to bear firearms was to be extended while serving in a malitia. If you arent in a malitia, you dont need the firearms. Or a .44 under your pillow.

What else would it have meant? The things hanging from your shoulders? It means firearms. Pretty hard to bear a cannon...

I'm too lazy to rehash this, here's an earlier thread:



http://cougarguard.com/forum/showthr...ght=ammendment

[TripletDaddy]

Originally Posted by Venkman

What else would it have meant? The things hanging from your shoulders? It means firearms. Pretty hard to bear a cannon...

I'm too lazy to rehash this, here's an earlier thread:



http://cougarguard.com/forum/showthr...ght=ammendment

You you are defining "bear" as a physical ability to carry, not to own privately?

[Venkman]

Originally Posted by TripletDaddy

You you are defining "bear" as a physical ability to carry, not to own privately?

The "keep" part takes care of the ownership.

[Flystripper]

Originally Posted by Venkman

What else would it have meant? The things hanging from your shoulders? It means firearms. Pretty hard to bear a cannon...

I'm too lazy to rehash this, here's an earlier thread:



http://cougarguard.com/forum/showthr...ght=ammendment

I can bear 50 lbs of c4----yeeeeehaaa!!! KAAABOOOOM!

[RockyBalboa]

This is something that I pondered for a long time after I was blindsided and attacked in a moment of random violence. When you get attacked, when you get hurt, when you are so freaked out that something like that can happen to you out of the blue, it makes you think long and hard about what you can do if you're ever backed into a corner again.

One day I may get a gun, but for now I've decided against having one.

However, I strongly believe in the 2nd Ammendment and the right to bear arms.