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Gotta go, but one more comment on my example, Siliaga (or close to that spelling). IN talking about HC and academics you stated you didn't know which it was with him Can you see what you are saying. You are so stuck in this idea it has to be academics or HC that even though you don't know, you are sure it has to be. That my friend is digging into a position and then having to defend it at all costs. Absolute statements are always hard to defend. I simple, I overstaed it would do. |
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Let's look at this from another angle. Bronco is trying to evaluate how we're doing recruiting head-to-head against Utah and want to analyze why certain athletes went to Utah instead of BYU after being offered by BYU. This way he can minimize future losses. What does his report tell him? |
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That has never happened with Lebowski. Why? Because he doesn't even try to engage a differing viewpoint by articulating his own. He hasn't tried to do it in this thread either. |
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You want my viewpoint on this thread? OK. The topic of this thread is your argument that many posters immediately assume that you believe the opposite of the poster simply because you point out a what you consider to be a fallacy in the reasoning. I think both Adam and BYU71 made excellent points about your tendency to nitpick at tangential issues or to speak in absolutes that paint yourself into a corner. I agree with both of those points but I think it goes farther than that. The reason you often get the reaction you do over here is because you cultivate it. There is an element of condescension and self-righteousness running through almost all of your posts. The thread started by Requiem the other day about choirs is a good case in point. You came late to the discussion and eventually made some decent points but they were couched in your typical condescending, holier-than-thou tone. Your first response was to put down everyone and everything in the thread: Quote:
And I stand by my original comments on irony. For you to claim that you are misunderstood in spite of the fact that you post either here or over on CB every 35 seconds is quite a statement. I think you are struggling to accept the fact that maybe the problem is you. Or perhaps you really are misunderstood. In which case you must be an incredibly poor communicator. Finally, I call bullshit on your claim that this thread is not about you specifically but that it applies "in general". If that were indeed true, it would mean that you alone somehow are able to magically discern what others "really believe". You can make that claim for yourself, but not others.
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"Defender of truth and righteousness"? Hyperbole. Do I have strong opinions and feel I can back those opinions up? Yes. To be honest, don't most of us feel the same way? Quote:
But there have been many times where I've tried to explain my views in detail in response to someone's inaccurate claims about what I think, only to see that person immediately respond as if they never read what I had just said or they strain mightily to twist what I just said to fit their earlier mischaracterizations. Again, I'm not the only one around here that experiences this and when it happens, it's pretty obvious what's going on. Am I the greatest communicator? Probably not, but I don't think most of what I write is that hard to understand. I do appreciate that you took the time to respond in detail. Thanks. Let's have more substantive interactions in the future. |
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