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Old 08-26-2008, 09:16 PM   #21
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In other words, it is a very big group, including know-it-all moralistic dentists, pretty much every politician, most lawyers... essentially anyone who from a position of economic or social or (perceived) moral or ideological superiority judges those "beneath", isn't it?

I would rule out Mother Theresa and Gordon B. Hinckley outright. Damn near everyone else of any kind of level of success and judgement is suspect.

"When I went to college I didn't take any money from WIC, worked all night, took a full load, got straight A's and now I'm a millionaire. If some of the supposed 'downtrodden' would step up & get a work ethic, they wouldn't have to depend on a government handout."

Elitist, on the face of it.

Anyone who adversely judges any other group is a kind of elitist, of some sort.
Only if they have power, and only if the operate from an elitist persepctive.

Your quotation does not refelct an elitist persepctive. It is an opinion abotu laziness.
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Old 08-26-2008, 09:19 PM   #22
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Honestly, do we really want middle-class people running the country?
I have no problem with that.


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Old 08-26-2008, 09:37 PM   #23
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Only if they have power, and only if the operate from an elitist persepctive.

Your quotation does not refelct an elitist persepctive. It is an opinion abotu laziness.
If you'd get off the damned computer, and work, you might know something about that. But of course, given your fancy smancy education, you have the silver spoon and don't need to work.
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If you'd get off the damned computer, and work, you might know something about that.
Good point. OFf to work I go.
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Good point. OFf to work I go.
Just ribbing you.
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:09 PM   #26
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Last name suspiciously close to Osama
Middle name is Hussein
Picks a VP whose last name, when placed behind his name and read quickly, causes the two to morph into Osama bin Laden.

And now, a brother who lives in Africa which is extremely close to the Middle East. Much closer than Arizona.

I wasn't gonna vote for the guy anyway, but now I'm really not gonna.
Whatever, McCain's wife has a bigger rack.
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Old 08-27-2008, 06:58 AM   #27
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Whatever, McCain's wife has a bigger rack.
McCain's mistress/2nd wife. He divorced his real wife years ago to go A-whoring. Real classy P.O.S., that McCain.
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:06 PM   #28
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McCain's mistress/2nd wife. He divorced his real wife years ago to go A-whoring. Real classy P.O.S., that McCain.
Precisely. McCain's personal morals should become an issue. If he can't be trusted in a marriage [insert any one of numerous examples here] how can he be trusted leading the nation?

Watching Romney on Scarborough this morning, I'm pretty sure he'll be the VP candidate. McCain / Romney have allure, but they definitely have some soft spots that can be exploited.

There could be enough noise about Romney's faith coming from different obscure groups to raise to it becoming a media question, from there it might mushroom into a fairly serious negative for McCain / Romney. [Don't shoot me, I'm the messenger here]

Negative campaigning needs to be approached very carefully and skillfully, but it can be extraordinarily effective.

I'm an Obama guy, but increasingly aware that he could easily lose, and if he does win, he'll have a lot of opposition right out the gate. The same is true for McCain, absolutely. The last strong mandate election was Reagan 84, and no matter who wins this one they'll have built in opposition from Day 1, will start out having to defend themselves amid gridlock. The precedent of Bush 2000 and the difficulties he's had (many self-inflicted, granted) will continue, IMO.

Should Romney rise to the Presidency, Mormons will learn to laugh at themselves and much of their religious culture & maybe some beliefs, or suffer lots of feeling persecuted. From the current predominant LDS mindset, Mitt winning might not be worth the attention & negatives that would come along with it.

As McCain learned in 2000, negative campaigning works, at the cost of perpetual division & cynicism. That he's so readily adopting those tactics at this point is telling. There is a lot of truth in the assertion that the McCain of 2000 would not vote for the McCain of 2008.

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Old 08-27-2008, 01:32 PM   #29
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McCain's mistress/2nd wife. He divorced his real wife years ago to go A-whoring. Real classy P.O.S., that McCain.
Obama and Biden better pray to God or Allah or whomever they believe to be a higher deity, that they have no skeletons if you will, in the proverbial closet.

If word gets out that either of them have been out pumping the flesh, they will b e crucified.

I am not condoning what McCain has done, I honestly feel as though he is just one step above Obama, but the guy has come clean about what happened in his marriage that fractured, Obama had better hope Obama is not hiding something reprehensible.
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