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Old 01-11-2008, 03:50 PM   #1
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Two points:

1. I'm not an IT guy. I build the back-end systems for a website that is used by millions. A far cry from running servers for a branch office, etc.

2. The guy in Bangalor CAN'T do my job. It's been tried. I have made a TON of money doing haz-mat duty cleaning up the messes made by off shoring.
Amen to that. Off-shoring has reached a state of equilibrium, IMO. Demand for CS/IT experts in the US is very strong.
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:40 PM   #2
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But let's see what the Utahns in my industry have to say:

http://www.cougarboard.com/noframes/...tml?id=3365456
A guy in my ward was looking for someone with the skills you listed recently. He told me he was willing to pay $125-150K per year. He was having a real tough time filling the position.
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Old 01-11-2008, 03:45 PM   #3
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A guy in my ward was looking for someone with the skills you listed recently. He told me he was willing to pay $125-150K per year. He was having a real tough time filling the position.
Interesting. I imagine he was having a tough time due to the perceptions of guys like me. But even at that, for me it's not just about being able to find A job. It's many jobs.

Meaning I could replace my income at another company without having to move.
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At least double. Probably even more than that. I am a non-management technical employee (very senior and damn good at what I do ... but still) and I make well into six figures.
Guys at Novell don't make that, that are comparable to your skill level? Or Omniture or Altirus? The high tech companies change so much I'm not sure what the other comparable firms are.
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At least double. Probably even more than that. I am a non-management technical employee (very senior and damn good at what I do ... but still) and I make well into six figures.
The issue is not how many figures make up your income.

It is where the decimals and commas fall.
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At least double. Probably even more than that. I am a non-management technical employee (very senior and damn good at what I do ... but still) and I make well into six figures.
That is great. I still think making well into six figures is a dang good income. Dang good.

However, you can also do well in Utah. I live here and my income tax will be well into 6 figures.
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That is great. I still think making well into six figures is a dang good income. Dang good.

However, you can also do well in Utah. I live here and my income tax will be well into 6 figures.
The bottom line with all of this is that discussing it in terms of individual careers is pointless. Nothing like a sample size of 1 or 2 right Jay?

In reality, if I wantd to, I probably COULD move to Utah now and make what I'm making. Individual salary history has a huge impact on negotiations. But I don't think I could have developed that history if I had stayed in Utah.

Which incidentally is why I think if a kid wants to live in Utah, a good life/career plan is to leave for 5-10 years, then move back.
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The bottom line with all of this is that discussing it in terms of individual careers is pointless. Nothing like a sample size of 1 or 2 right Jay?

In reality, if I wantd to, I probably COULD move to Utah now and make what I'm making. Individual salary history has a huge impact on negotiations. But I don't think I could have developed that history if I had stayed in Utah.

Which incidentally is why I think if a kid wants to live in Utah, a good life/career plan is to leave for 5-10 years, then move back.

To live comfortably you have to meet a certain income level. After that choices open up to you where you can trade off additional income for other things.
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I make 9 times as much now as I used to make early in my life.
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Old 01-11-2008, 04:23 PM   #10
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I make 9 times as much now as I used to make early in my life.
I made about $3.85 per hour for my first job.

It depresses me to think about how little I worked for. I guess that's why they say education is a good thing.
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