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MikeWaters · 07-13-2007, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

I don't think that was an option.

Do you think it is appropriate for a Bishop to direct this, as judge in Israel?

Indy Coug · 07-13-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Do you think it is appropriate for a Bishop to direct this, as judge in Israel?

What does the Handbook say? Besides, are you referring to purely a hypothetical or an actual "case study"?

MikeWaters · 07-13-2007, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy Coug

What does the Handbook say? Besides, are you referring to purely a hypothetical or an actual "case study"?

I don't know what the handbook says. I can't really say anything more about the situation.

Tex · 07-13-2007, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

So if you knew your Bishop was 1) doing this or 2) planning to do this, would you do anything to let him know you thought it was a mistake?

In this specific case, my understanding is my friend wrote the letter at the urging of his bishop. If I were in a position to influence that bishop, I might gently suggest letting it go as an option, yes.

If a member initiates the request, as santos says below, then of course they ought to be permitted. I don't know that the behavior should be otherwise encouraged or sought out.

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Originally Posted by jay santos

But certainly we should allow a member to remove their name off the list if they so desire.

Archaea · 07-13-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by YOhio

I don't think dating Brande Roderick is embarrassing to BYU.

Neither do I. If BYU guys can date playmates, then BYU might become cool too.

As somebody else, if you're going out, go out in style.

Archaea · 07-13-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

I never said it was my position.

Mike is too much a mullah for me. I believe being charitable and letting people work it out on their own.

tooblue · 07-13-2007, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

I agree with this. I would also suggest that if the purpose of excommunication is really to help the person repent, and if the person has no intention whatsoever of trying to repent and simply doesn't care, then there isn't much of a point in excommunicating that person.

Bingo!

Sleeping in EQ · 07-13-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jay santos

I don't agree with Mike's take on cleansing out church membership lists.

But certainly we should allow a member to remove their name off the list if they so desire.

We're legally bound to take someone's name off the rolls at their request. It's a 1st Ammendment issue.

tooblue · 07-13-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleeping in EQ

We're legally bound to take someone's name off the rolls at their request. It's a 1st Ammendment issue.

I believe there has even been a law suit or two aimed at forcing action on name removal.

BlueHair · 07-13-2007, 11:13 PM

The church would be foolish to hunt down people and ask them to remove their names. They are very proud of being one of the so-called fastest growing religions. The church would go from the fastest growing to the fastest shrinking church in no time flat. Who would want to join the world's fastest shrinking religion? On that note, I wonder what percentage of the people on the membership rolls still consider themselves Mormons. When we were doing re-activation visits in the Philippines, I'd say at least 75% of the inactives didn't even consider themselves Mormon anymore.

07-13-2007, 11:13 PM	#30
BlueHair Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Utah Posts: 1,148	The church would be foolish to hunt down people and ask them to remove their names. They are very proud of being one of the so-called fastest growing religions. The church would go from the fastest growing to the fastest shrinking church in no time flat. Who would want to join the world's fastest shrinking religion? On that note, I wonder what percentage of the people on the membership rolls still consider themselves Mormons. When we were doing re-activation visits in the Philippines, I'd say at least 75% of the inactives didn't even consider themselves Mormon anymore.