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I'm not smart enough to say what exactly the cause of all of this is, but I am also not dumb enough to lay all the blame on one thing. I've worked at Banks for about 8 years, all in consumer lending, and while the government gives us a lot of direction and regulations, they've never forced us to make bad loans. The marketing and sales people try to make us do that a lot more than the government. My opinion is that the massive growth in the mortgage CDO market did a whole lot more to cause this than the government (and the fault that the government has is not in getting rid of redlining). Large investors (pushed by investment houses) created a huge demand for CDOs, the investment houses pushed that demand down to the consumer banks and mortgage brokers, who sold a bunch of loans to people who couldn't afford them (who are also not faultless in this). The brokers who made these loans were motivated much more, IMO, by the fact that they could make a lot of money selling them than they were by the government hoding a gun to their heads. |
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09-26-2008, 12:10 AM | #22 | |
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Being sort of hickish and definitely not urban, you've never actually witnessed urban renewal. |
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Good for them. If they are doing it with their own money. Just don't tell me that I have to pay for it.
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09-26-2008, 12:17 AM | #25 | |
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And you continue to race bait. I NEVER said anything about "black" areas. I said that private businesses should be able to choose areas to lend in or not based on real socioeconomic data. If those areas happen to be predominantly black, that is irrelevant.
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09-26-2008, 12:22 AM | #26 | |
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Is that what you are advocating? Do you think these banks exist in a vacuum, getting no benefit from the govt. and the fed? |
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09-26-2008, 12:27 AM | #27 | |
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How about data that says foreclosures are 50% higher in the area. Or that 50% of homeowners are behind in their payments. Or that crime is astronomical so responsible people don't want to live there? All valid factors IMO.
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09-26-2008, 12:31 AM | #28 | |
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Yeah, you can get away with espousing these views in the church. But try going around to other places, and get away with saying "there is no racism in redlining." Maybe you can get SU to argue for you. He seems to live fascism these days. Last edited by MikeWaters; 09-26-2008 at 12:34 AM. |
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09-26-2008, 12:42 AM | #29 | |
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It' not in home loans per se, but I built a model a few years ago that dealt with assigning credit ratings to thos who receive collect calls from correctional facilities (I'm not kidding). Not surprisingly, demographic data including location was a big part of that model. It resulted in reducing bad debt by over 40% and there is a patent on it. Good enough? Which part of your grant-unded research has to do with this, IT, or any other host of things you think you seem to think you know all about?
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