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Finally you say if I can't see a difference between us and them in "this regard." What regard are you talking about? DO you disagree that the statement made is among the justifications used by our terrorist enemies?
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YEs, we have gotten past the "destroy the village to save it" apporach. If it were a real war, meanign war against comabtants as opposed to war against insurgents/terrorists, we ouwld do what we needed to do, I beleive.
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I am confident that is not our expectation, even now in Iraq we are rather blase about Iraqi civilian deaths as compared to our own military casualties.
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Good point. I was responding to Cali Coug's assertion that not having the stomach for ANY civilian casualties was a virtue, whereas I see it as a problem in a time of war.
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My point on civilian casualties stands though. Not the blunt instrument, but that we seem as a country to weep and wail entirely too much over the inevitable civilian casualties. An example that comes to mind is when a bomb hit an Iraqi market during the air campaign at the beginning of the war. The market was not targeted but it was an errant bomb. The media made the US military out to be war criminals. And the expectation was that our bombs should be so "smart" so that something like that would never happen. An unrealistic expectation IMO. As weapons get more and more sophisticated, collateral damage will be less and less. But less <> 0. |
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Then we agree. Unnecessary deaths are bad. And hoping for 0 or as close to it is great. My concern is the difference between hope and expectations.
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