05-12-2008, 10:59 PM | #21 |
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Ok, Kazakh. I'll change it up above.
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05-13-2008, 01:53 PM | #23 |
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Krakauer is working on a book about Pat Tillman. And himself. It will be of course, about Pat Tillman, in the context of Krakauer's own life and heroism.
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So was Under the Banner of Heaven really about Krackhead and his desire to murder in the name of religion?
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Waters notes that Krakauer admits at least two people may have died because of his inaction or action. He is also introspective of the role that peresence of media may have played in causing the hyper-competitiveness between guides (guiding clims on Everest was big business by then) that led to their stupid and tragic risk-taking and decisions. Contrast this with Boukreev who was only defensive and took no responsiblity even though he was a guide and some people in his stewardship died as did his guiding partner fischer. I think Krakauer gets ethics and credibilty points for confessing having been a potential contributing fator to deaths. On a somewhat different note, clearly from Banner we see that Karakauer has had it in for Mormons. I understand that when he was a kid he knew Mormons in Oregon and was left with a bad impression of them. Notice how people don't write about Mormons (pro or con) unless they have had a history with them?
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Boukreev was not a guide for Krakauer's group. Does Krakauer have any criticism for his OWN guides that did not save anyone? More gobbledygook from Krakauer: Quote:
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And this is the problem with amateurs. We try something the experienced experts do, most often with their help, and then we believe we're experts, knowledgeable enough to be "experts" or to express opinions. I do it in cycling or triathlons, when in reality, I'm just an ignorant neophyte and in mountaineering I'm below that.
But from meeting with those who know stuff, they find Krackhead to be unbearable. He is inconsistent and for Seattle to criticize B, however one spells his name, shows B has never been in a situation where one did all one could. It makes it sound as if Seattle has never been past the point of exhaustion. I cannot claim to have done what they have done, but I have been past the point of exhaustion in exercise, so I fault K for critiquing B in that situation. It is beyond amazing he would do that, as an amateur.
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There is a big difference between saying "I wonder if Boukreev had..." and saying "People died because of Boukreev."
Then chutzpauh and arrogance in the latter is beyond my comprehension. Krakauer thinks he is God. He can assign heaven and hell to whomever he wants. I think I agree with the theory that Krakauer could not for a moment stand the idea that someone was a hero, that someone deserved glory. He may not have appreciated this consciously, but I believe this was the case. The idea of interviewing B. and writing about his rescue must have galled K. He needed to tear this man down. |
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