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I am in favor of free trade. I am in favor of not setting prices for labor. I am not in favor of unskilled labor being paid according to off the books wages, not in accordance with law required of citizens. Thus, if we were required to follow the same laws for paying unskilled citizens, do you believe we would have unskilled jobs available for those who are undocumented? We want the benefit of the lowest prices, but lowest prices where labor has a level playing field, in terms of playing by the same rules. As far as the "market correcting", I would state it more accurately, the "market reacts and adjusts", but I would state "correcting" is inaccurate.
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Just for clarification: Do you think the market automatically fills any labor we need, and expunges any labor we don't need, or do we need the government to do something? |
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Some fun reading today about Trump and the economy.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ecb_story.html "Economists, political scientists and historians on both left and right have repeatedly warned about the dangers of a trade war, international isolationism, mass deportation and federal debt explosion." The Pro-Trump comments are kind of funny. Lots of anger toward Obama/Hillary/Liberals/the media, but short on anything substantive as to why the economic concerns around Trump's policies are not warranted. Last edited by BlueK; 06-22-2016 at 06:51 PM. |
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I know there are varying theories on this, but I do not see a role for government to fill in regards to labor, except for providing education to up-skill the labor force.
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If you see the government having a role in limiting immigration, then that is very much the government taking a role in strongly influencing the labor pool rather than just letting the market regulate it.
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We need a coherent policy on controlling entry into the country for purposes of security and equal labor treatment. If some labor comes in and is paid under the table while residents are paid above board, it is not an equal playing field. If the economy dictates the need for cheap, unskilled labor and Congress allows for the numbers to increase, that makes sense. Indirectly, it impacts the labor force, but I focus upon the sovereignty and security issue before the issue of labor.
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I do agree the government should keep track of and monitor who is entering the country for security reasons. Keep out those who have and are likely to break laws and cause trouble. But let in honest folks who are just wanting to work and improve their situation if there are jobs for them. People like that and their kids usually end up becoming excellent, productive citizens who contribute positively to society. People born into poor circumstances who have the drive to get up and move to another country for work despite all the language, cultural and economic barriers, instead of staying home asking their homeland for handouts, are exactly the kind of people a free country should want. Look at stagnating Europe's historically bad attitude toward foreign immigrants to see why the Trump "keep everyone the hell out of our country" attitude doesn't work. When there aren't jobs available then they largely won't come anyway. Immigration levels drop when the economy slows. Data shows this is what happens. Current legal and illegal immigration levels are at historically pretty low levels right now but politicians and wackos like Trump are preying on fears and fanning anti-foreigner flames right now because it's politically expedient, which I think is disgusting. There are problems. It's just that I see most of the problems we have related to immigration are actually being caused by the bad immigration laws we have on the books. Enforcing these more vigorously is not going to help anything, IMO. I am an unabashed classical liberal (not to be confused with a modern democrat party liberal) Last edited by BlueK; 07-14-2016 at 10:02 PM. |
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