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It's not satisfying to feel like the Lord communicated to you, and then to have it rejected. You feel like 'so what am I to make of that? I guess I was wrong.' I'm ok with being wrong, I'm saying that being wrong doesn't inspire confidence in your skills. And it's not like I am wrong alone, I am wrong with the former counselor in the stake presidency and the other counselor. |
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06-10-2008, 03:52 PM | #22 | |
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If the Bishop had XYZ in mind then he could have simply given me a list of possible candidates that included XYZ and let me pray about it instead of going through a repetitive and fruitless process. I'm currently serving in my second Bishopric with a great Bishop and in both of my Bishopric experiences I've seen the Bishopric suggest some possible names to an organizational head and have the organizational head pray about it and select one of those candidates instead of floundering around with name after name after name when the Bishopric already had someone in mind. But, I guess in your world neither I nor my past or present Bishopric really understand how the priesthood is supposed to operate... |
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Take notes so when you are Bishop you will do the same.
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06-10-2008, 03:55 PM | #24 |
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I haven't found out about the last three additions until their sustaining. That's fine. We keep going. I don't doubt that the Bishop is doing what he feels is best for both the organization and the person called.
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06-10-2008, 03:56 PM | #25 | |
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The principle that's being lost here is that it's not an auxiliary leader's role to call. When in these callings you pray about someone for a position, you must always approach it with the caveat that the Lord may direct the bishop elsewhere. As I said before, the moment you've decided that this person is "IT"--that's been confirmed by revelation that they are THE MAN--you have overstepped your bounds. |
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President is the one with the keys though. Bishop's presiding because the key holder is not there.
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Right. The EQP has keys and thus needs to report to the guy with the MP keys (Stake President). Why the HP is a "group" of the Stake HP Quorum vs. a quorum of its own is intersting though. The only thing I can think of for that is that HP Groups tend to be much less needy than EQ's.
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However, if you do want to teach a seminar then you might want to consider how many Bishops often overstep their bounds when it comes to a Elder's Quorum President's authority to make an in-quorum calling. The Bishop doesn't make the call or set apart an Elders Quorum instructor or a Home Teaching District Supervisor or even a quorum committee chairperson. The Bishop should have veto power for reasons of a candidate's worthiness; however, aside from candidate worthiness the Bishop technically doesn't have priesthood stewardship over the Elders Quorum. Unfortunately, many Bishops in the church effectively emasculate their EQP by insisting (unrighteously, I think) that the Bishop gets who the Bishop wants in the internal EQ callings. Perhaps thats a principle that's being lost that you can address in your seminar? |
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