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His lack of credibility on other points gives me cause for concern on this point. And Professor England did a good job arguing otherwise. In one respect, I must admit that I don't know, but if somebody claims to know with a certainty, then that creates reason for me to doubt. Now if JS were speaking to me and adamantly made that assertion, that is one voice who would have credibility with me. But McConkie's domineering tone and approach causes me to doubt whatever he touched. With that stated, McConkie may be correct, but for those to assert McConkie debunked it completely or whatever Chino stated, is not true for me and perhaps others.
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Hell yeah.
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http://books.google.com/books?id=L6I...hl=en#PPR18,M1
An interesting book on the subject. comment on Whitehead. http://www.anthonyflood.com/hartshor...lintuition.htm
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And Paulsen makes the "openess" discussion more lucid:
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Then read Paulsen's argument above on it. Paulsen in his interview admits both points of view, namely yours and Chino's as well as the other viewpoints, including those held by JS, BY and WW.
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And Chino being introduced to process philosophy in a class, while worthy, hardly qualifies him to make a definitive pronouncement on the subject. I'm not going to make one either, but I will say this: I've been studying it for a long time, have integrated it into my doctoral work, and am competent on the subject. There are many intriguing and compelling ideas in process philosophy. In my field it's a great way to slice the gordian knot that the Marxists and Psychoanalysts have tied themselves in. It's a fresh alternative to trying to synthesize Marx's flows of capital and interest with Freud's flows of desire. Deleuze's iteration of it is the most compelling argument against fascism I have ever encountered.
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I think we're dabbling here in areas we cannot possibly comprehend. Not to say I'm critical of the effort to do so, but I don't expect much from the attempt.
"Does God grow in knowledge?" Is that a question that is remotely possible to answer?
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