Obama only loses due to racism?

[SeattleUte]

You presidential scholars, when was the last time the democratic party fielded essentially a liberal northeastern ticket through and through and won?

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

You presidential scholars, when was the last time the democratic party fielded essentially a liberal northeastern ticket through and through and won?

Who was FDR's first running mate? He didn't have Harry each of his terms did he?

Before that you got me, you'd have to go back to the 19th Century.

[landpoke]

Uppity Muslim? I thought those rumors had been put to bed.

As an aside, I have one issue and one issue only that I care about and Obama is not in line with my views on that particular subject.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by Archaea

Who was FDR's first running mate? He didn't have Harry each of his terms did he?

No. Harry was only his running mate for the last term. So maybe it was a ticket before that, but certainly not Harry or afterward. Even if it were FDR and someone the Great Depression might be called an extenuating circumstance.

I know this isn't my field. But from my life's experience Obama's pick of a paleo liberal such as Biden seems like pure hubris. Overplaying his hand.

I think this country is very capable of electing a black president. But the democrats have decided to subject that propostion to the ultimate test. I don't get it.

[landpoke]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

You presidential scholars, when was the last time the democratic party fielded essentially a liberal northeastern ticket through and through and won?

Wiki search shows FDR's VP's were from Texas (Garner) Iowa (Wallace) and of course Missouri.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by landpoke

Wiki search shows FDR's VP's were from Texas (Garner) Iowa (Wallace) and of course Missouri.

So we're back beyond FDR. Wow, even he wasn't arrogant and dogmatic as democrats are now.

[MikeWaters]

SU, you moron, Biden is not a "paleo liberal."

Various interest groups have given Senator Biden scores or grades as to how well his votes align with the positions of each group.[54] Biden has a lifetime 72% score from Americans for Democratic Action through 2004, while the American Conservative Union awarded Biden a lifetime rating of 13% through 2007.[55] Biden has a lifetime average liberal score of 77.5%, according to a National Journal analysis that places him ideologically among the center of Senate Democrats.[56] The ACLU gives Senator Biden an 86% lifetime score, with a 91% score for the current session of Congress.[57]

You're the paleo Tory on this site.

[SeattleUte]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

SU, you moron, Biden is not a "paleo liberal."



You're the paleo Tory on this site.

LOL. I think these figures just support that he's an old style democrat. Waters, the king of assuming people don't read his links. Here he embeds a quote contrary to his point.

Regardless, that's how he's seen. He made his fame as head of the judiciary committee, borking Bork. He's part of the old Democratic guard. And he's from Delaware for god's sake.

I think you'll see some of the same democrats who turned on Kerry do the same this time. Hillary's supporters aren't sold.

[Archaea]

Originally Posted by SeattleUte

So we're back beyond FDR. Wow, even he wasn't arrogant and dogmatic as democrats are now.

This election is the Democrats to lose and they seem determined to make it an interesting race based upon their hubris.

The radical liberal positions of this ticket may sink it just yet. And although a pro-choice position is probably very centrist, what Obama did in Illinois, based on his voting record and his acceptance of certain lobbying contributions is not centrist.

It's almost as if the Democrats get a little heady, thinking, "Gee people actually like us, we can do whatever we damn well please," when in reality people are really saying, "We really hate George Bush and want to punish the Republicans for giving us him." It's not that Americans really love liberal Democratic policies, they hate the failed policies of the Bush administration, and Americans won't take just any damn socialist policy. Dems take as a mandate for their pet projects what is really a mandate against Bush.

[8ballrollin]

This entire column is late August content fill. Jacob needed page views and some content for a late summer week, so he wrote this piece.

How can you tell? Look at the first paragraph:

What with the Bush legacy of reckless war and economic mismanagement, 2008 is a year that favors the generic Democratic candidate over the generic Republican one. Yet Barack Obama, with every natural and structural advantage in the presidential race, is running only neck-and-neck against John McCain, a sub-par Republican nominee with a list of liabilities longer than a Joe Biden monologue.

How about some perspective, Jacob? At this point in '88 Dukakis had a 17 point lead over Vice President Bush. We all know how that election turned out. Jacob knows this polling fact too.

Looking at polling numbers before summer is over is silly. (Besides, as we know it’s all about electoral numbers anyway.) Making suggestions about racism based on August polling numbers is trolling. And Jacob also knows that's a fact as well.