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TripletDaddy · 07-29-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

So how were you not following instructions? Seems to me you were trying to imagine paradise as you were told to do.

Good point. I should have extended my hand and accepted paradise.

BarbaraGordon · 07-29-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by YOhio

On the other hand, I could honestly see Utah swinging blue for a season if Huckabee were placed on the ticket.

He's full of shit. Prolly less than 5% of evangelicals would vote against McCain on account of Romney. And even that's a maybe.

BarbaraGordon · 07-29-2008, 07:05 PM

I should clarify that I meant McCoy is full of shit. Not YOhio.

YOhio · 07-29-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BarbaraGordon

He's full of shit. Prolly less than 5% of evangelicals would vote against McCain on account of Romney. And even that's a maybe.

Are you trying to be a buzzkill here? I enjoy being persecuted, especially when I can blame it on the creepy bible-thumpers.

BarbaraGordon · 07-29-2008, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by YOhio

Are you trying to be a buzzkill here? I enjoy being persecuted, especially when I can blame it on the creepy bible-thumpers.

oops. sorry. Please, continue.

In that case I can provide lots of Dobson quotes for you. Maybe even a few Rick Warrens.

And fear not...Huckabee's not even on the radar.

Sleeping in EQ · 07-29-2008, 07:09 PM

Romney will be a deal breaker only for the dominionists and the ultra-conservatives. Basically, only with the Jesus Camp crowd.

BYU71 · 07-29-2008, 07:22 PM

The press will pull all the radical evangelists on the tube and let them spout their venom.

I wonder if Huck was on the ticket if the press would put on all the radical mormons and let them spout their venom.

Of course when you have the truth, it isn't venom, but just truth.

I feel fortunate I could never be a religious biggot, because my faith is the true faith therefor my faith is righteous and not biggotry.

BarbaraGordon · 07-29-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU71

I wonder if Huck was on the ticket if the press would put on all the radical mormons and let them spout their venom.

No. If Huck is on the ticket they'll alternately just allow him to make a fool of himself, and have the secularists tear him limb from limb.

Fundamentalists do make great bigots, though, because their thinking is so exclusionary.

BlueK · 07-29-2008, 07:50 PM

This is an election where the Republicans cannot afford to cater to the religious right. They must win several non-bible belt states that won't be won with Huckabee or another social "conservative" on the ticket. I will contend that social conservatives are typically not all that conservative on most things -- only social issues like abortion and school prayer. We've had a social conservative with a neocon foreign policy the last eight years that has alienated other traditional republican bases like the economic conservatives and small government libertarians. Those are the voters the GOP must have backing McCain this time or they're dead. The social conservatives do not need to be appeased. It's not like they're suddenly going to vote for Obama if McCain picks Romney. On the other hand, Romney could help in some crucial states like Colorado, Michigan and Nevada. McCain doesn't win the election without those.

exUte · 07-29-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeWaters

in the same way that the church is fighting gay marriage because it will legitimize gays, evangelicals are fighting Romney so it is doesn't legitimize Mormons.

The irony is rich.

check out the primary numbers. Evangelicals WERE voting for Romney....even more so than McCain for example. The pastor is full of Texas BS.

07-29-2008, 07:09 PM	#16
Sleeping in EQ Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The People's Republic of Monsanto Posts: 3,085	Romney will be a deal breaker only for the dominionists and the ultra-conservatives. Basically, only with the Jesus Camp crowd. __________________ "Do not despise the words of prophets, but test everything; hold fast to what is good; " 1 Thess. 5:21 (NRSV) We all trust our own unorthodoxies.

07-29-2008, 07:50 PM	#19
BlueK Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 2,368	This is an election where the Republicans cannot afford to cater to the religious right. They must win several non-bible belt states that won't be won with Huckabee or another social "conservative" on the ticket. I will contend that social conservatives are typically not all that conservative on most things -- only social issues like abortion and school prayer. We've had a social conservative with a neocon foreign policy the last eight years that has alienated other traditional republican bases like the economic conservatives and small government libertarians. Those are the voters the GOP must have backing McCain this time or they're dead. The social conservatives do not need to be appeased. It's not like they're suddenly going to vote for Obama if McCain picks Romney. On the other hand, Romney could help in some crucial states like Colorado, Michigan and Nevada. McCain doesn't win the election without those. Last edited by BlueK; 07-29-2008 at 07:59 PM.

07-29-2008, 07:05 PM	#13
BarbaraGordon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gotham City Posts: 7,157	I should clarify that I meant McCoy is full of shit. Not YOhio.

07-29-2008, 07:22 PM	#17
BYU71 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,084	The press will pull all the radical evangelists on the tube and let them spout their venom. I wonder if Huck was on the ticket if the press would put on all the radical mormons and let them spout their venom. Of course when you have the truth, it isn't venom, but just truth. I feel fortunate I could never be a religious biggot, because my faith is the true faith therefor my faith is righteous and not biggotry.