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tooblue · 02-06-2008, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

The ones you list haven't run qua Evangelicals per se. Bush, for example, is not necessarily as associated with any denomination as Romney or Huckabee. His father was originally a Protestant mainliner. They talk the God talk in a way that's ecumenical and pleasing to Mornons. Huckabee and Romney respectively ran as an Evangelical and a Mormon.

Now, before you remonstrate, let me say that Romney embraced the "Romney the Mormon candidate" label the day he decided to pander to the Evangelicals. He made religion an issue because basically abortion, gay marriage, and anit-immigration is all they care about. He only compounded this with his religion speech. He could have run like McCain and made religion a non-issue by being moderate on social issues like he did in Massachusettes. In that case his religion would have been a non-issue, and the Evangelicals would still have hated him like they do anyway.

You are reaching for justification just as the press has reached ... they do not like him and will not vote for him for no other reason than he is Mormon.

He COULD NOT HAVE RUN as ANYTHING but a Moromon -such abject naivity is oustounding.

Jeff Lebowski · 02-06-2008, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

For Mormons it's all about supporting the tribe.

Yes. And if we are honest, we will admit that we really wanted Mitt to go all of the way because it would have been the ultimate validation of Mormonism. We crave acceptance by the "outside world" and this brought us so tantalizingly close. Hence the meltdown that we are witnessing on CB today.

Tex · 02-06-2008, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Yes. And if we are honest, we will admit that we really wanted Mitt to go all of the way because it would have been the ultimate validation of Mormonism. We crave acceptance by the "outside world" and this brought us so tantalizingly close. Hence the meltdown that we are witnessing on CB today.

Didn't play much into my decision, frankly. I came to Romney more by way of default than anything else. The rank bigotry in the south disappoints me, but it's honestly more weird to me that they voted for a guy who has zero chance of capturing the nomination than anything else.

Can we at least now say that Cali's prediction of a Romney candidacy can go down with his Gonzales prediction?

UtahDan · 02-06-2008, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Tex

but it's honestly more weird to me that they voted for a guy who has zero chance of capturing the nomination than anything else.

Sometimes people can't identify their own self interests. Sometimes they cut off their noses to spite their faces. See Ross Perot. Boy did the people who voted for that guy ever show the rest of us.

Cali Coug · 02-06-2008, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tex

Didn't play much into my decision, frankly. I came to Romney more by way of default than anything else. The rank bigotry in the south disappoints me, but it's honestly more weird to me that they voted for a guy who has zero chance of capturing the nomination than anything else.

Can we at least now say that Cali's prediction of a Romney candidacy can go down with his Gonzales prediction?

NOW you are saying Romney is finished? He is still in 2nd place, and McCain is only half way to the nomination. Romney has the most money and the best organization. To say he is finished is premature, IMO.

And why are you criticizing the south for voting for Huckabee because he "has zero chance of capturing the nomination?" You seem to be clearly indicating you think Romney has zero chance, and yet you voted for Romney. Does that make you a blind religious zealot too?

SeattleUte · 02-06-2008, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

NOW you are saying Romney is finished? He is still in 2nd place, and McCain is only half way to the nomination. Romney has the most money and the best organization. To say he is finished is premature, IMO.

After tonight people will be saying Huck is the no. 2 republican. This was like the last phase of Rome vs. Carthage. Romney was routed.

Cali Coug · 02-06-2008, 04:56 AM

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After tonight people will be saying Huck is the no. 2 republican. This was like the last phase of Rome vs. Carthage. Romney was routed.

Huck is definitely not the no. 2 now. He has clearly shown an inability to win anywhere outside of the south (except for the very odd situation in W. Virginia).

Tonight was a bad night for Romney, but he can survive it. If Huck stays in, he will likely lose the nomination in convention.

SeattleUte · 02-06-2008, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Coug

Huck is definitely not the no. 2 now. He has clearly shown an inability to win anywhere outside of the south (except for the very odd situation in W. Virginia).

Tex is right. People can now say your prediction that Romney would win was wrong.

MikeWaters · 02-06-2008, 04:58 AM

tonight is a huge, huge disappointment for Romney.

It will literally take an act of God for him to win, and that act would prove God to be a Mormon, I might add.

Cali Coug · 02-06-2008, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SeattleUte

Tex is right. People can now say your prediction that Romney would win was wrong.

The jury is still out on your Giuliani prediction.

02-06-2008, 04:58 AM	#19
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,365	tonight is a huge, huge disappointment for Romney. It will literally take an act of God for him to win, and that act would prove God to be a Mormon, I might add.