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Old 09-10-2007, 08:21 PM   #11
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Who, in his or her current state, would like to see C. in the flesh now?

That is the question. C is male of course, accuse of bad grammar, not bad intent.
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:23 PM   #12
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I don't see the New Testament Jesus being pleased that the majority of his church would rather not see him due to fear of being worthy.
Why would you want to see your judge prematurely? I don't. I get enough chastisement at home. Eternal condemnation can wait a while.
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it'd be good to know exactly where your standing is before the Lord.
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Old 09-10-2007, 08:27 PM   #14
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it'd be good to know exactly where your standing is before the Lord.
I already kinda know, I just need more time to improve my lot in Purgatory.
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I don't see the New Testament Jesus being pleased that the majority of his church would rather not see him due to fear of being worthy.
" ... then shall thy confidence wax strong in the presence of the Lord ... "
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" ... then shall thy confidence wax strong in the presence of the Lord ... "
well I'm a sinner not a saint.
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Why would you want to see your judge prematurely? I don't. I get enough chastisement at home. Eternal condemnation can wait a while.
Did anyone in the New Testament come away from a meeting with Jesus feeling condemned, other than those who didn't believe in him?
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Did anyone in the New Testament come away from a meeting with Jesus feeling condemned, other than those who didn't believe in him?
Since the Second Testament does not contain the entirety of Christ's dealings with those peoples, how in the heck should I know. We read the good feelings version.
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Since the Second Testament does not contain the entirety of Christ's dealings with those peoples, how in the heck should I know. We read the good feelings version.
Didn't mean for my question to be accusing towards you. It was a general question for any of what I would guess is the majority of the church that would respond in a similar manner to many in this thread. Sadly, my initial thought was to answer the same way. The guilt/works theme in the church grinds you down so hard that Jesus becomes someone we fear. Takes a lot to undo that.
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Did anyone in the New Testament come away from a meeting with Jesus feeling condemned, other than those who didn't believe in him?
I bet the the rich kid told to sell all his stuff felt inadequate.
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