07-24-2007, 05:30 PM | #11 |
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I think you would be surprised at how many in the 18-24 crowd have done it. While I don't think it is as widespread as multiple piercings, I can promise that the numbers would be surprising to you.
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07-24-2007, 05:31 PM | #12 |
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Maybe I just grew up in the poor house, but most of the families I knew didn't have a spare couple of grand to spend on their teenage daughter's breasts. But they could easily spare an extra $10 for another piercing. |
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http://www.surgery.org/download/2006stats.pdf Note on page 7 that there were 11.5 million cosmetic procedures in the U.S. - a 446% increase over the past decade. There are no comparable statistics for the annual frequency of piercings other than those from the NCBI claiming that 14% of Americans have body piercings: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...RVAbstractPlus The point is simply that the prevalence of cosmetic surgery in the U.S. is rapidly increasing and is certainly a more common phenomenon than you infer. |
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Lest I be backed into an argument I'm not making ... I'm not saying it doesn't happen, or even that it doesn't happen frequently. I'm just saying it's not significant relative to the number of LDS girls with their ears pierced. Ergo, one possible reason Hinckley didn't mention it. Frankly it surprises me that I'm in the minority with this view. |
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07-24-2007, 05:53 PM | #17 | |
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As to the rest of your points, I refer you to my previous post. EDIT: From your first link: "In 2006, there were 3,087 procedures performed on women under 18 and under, just under 1 percent of the total number of breast augmentations. Only one-half of 1 percent of the total number of breast augmentation procedures were performed on women 18 and under for purely cosmetic bilateral breast enlargement." Somehow I think there were far more than 3,087 ear piercings for women under 18 in the US, and please note that more than half of those 3,087 were for non-cosmetic reasons. Last edited by Tex; 07-24-2007 at 05:59 PM. |
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If the rationale is just "follow the prophet" (as Bednar seems to assert at a BYU devotional from May 2005: Quote:
then, the action (removing earrings) is irrelevant to the broader concept (obedience). Besides the generalized, "take care of your bodies" mantra, there is no rationale. GBH might as well have ordered us to eat three apples a day, or to floss between meals, since obedience is more important than rationale. How Mosaic. IMO, if we were truly concerned about protecting our sacred bodies, we would have much more direction on things like (elective) plastic surgery. But, since it seems to be more an attempt to foster uniformity and obedience, the earrings admonition is as good of a rule as any.
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FWIW, in the area of chestal augmentation (I didn't read all of the other thread, did we decide what we are supposed to call them?), at least two in my ward.
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Solon, that quote is a classic. I had to click the link to make sure it wasn't a lampoon. Lucky for the girl she kept two earrings in each ear. (Personally, I don't like piercings, but the issue is not the earrings!)
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