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10-23-2008, 02:55 PM | #12 |
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I don't think you are walking on dangerous ground. You should be able to take the advice given and decide for yourself. I believe a prophet usually gives out good advice. Bishops, High Councilmen, etc. give out bad advice on a regular basis. This is not intended to be a knock on them. Most of them are good men put in a position they simply aren't qualified for. I think sometimes members turn to church leaders for things they should be seeking professional help for. This puts leaders in a position to offer incorrect or even harmful advice.
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I understand times have changed and church government has evolved. It had too, obviously, going from a few thousand members in one city to millions world wide. I think there's a lot there to analyze though, without dismissing it so easily. |
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I don't know how many time I have heard that if you follow a leader and the leader turns out to be wrong, you will be blessed for it. Think about what that means. This means man is greater than God. You went against God's will because you followed bad advice from a man. Now God is going to reward you for it? That doesn't seems right to me. I doubt God places church management positions above his commandments.
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But I'm not sure there's a lot of application that it has for our iteration of the church today.
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10-23-2008, 03:20 PM | #17 | |
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The seemingly correct LDS and Christian response to such "propoganda" should be along the lines of "this is unfortunate, I respect his right to believe what he wants, hopefully we do not let this issue get in the way of our fellowship one to another...or even a simple "I disagree with this brother." Instead, Ainge says, "He deserves to get in trouble." Get in trouble? Are we in a police state? Is the concern in our congregations that the lost sheep get their just punishments or that they come back to the fold?
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I'm not sure why anyone needs new material. There are two issues, racism and polygamy, where designated prophets of God have spoken out and been completely wrong. These are not small issues. They had significant impact on members' lives and families. There are a thousand smaller issues we could discuss, but if the point we're trying to make is that prophets are fallible (and sometimes in significant ways), I'm not sure why we need to.
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Frankly, the LESS material on fallibilty of Church leaders, the better.
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