Running with a HR monitor

[MikeWaters]

If you don't throw up at least once a week after your workout, you are not working hard enough.

[SteelBlue]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

If you don't throw up at least once a week after your workout, you are not working hard enough.

Speed workouts often give me that urge.

[ERCougar]

Originally Posted by SteelBlue

An excellent post. Thank you. I think I've been doing things about right, probably need to add more speed work though. And with my new monitor, I'll be better at staying aerobic on my long run.

I'd be careful about adding more speed work. This is the most common workout to injure yourself in. Most people recommend only one of these workouts per week. I'd almost be concerned you're doing too MUCH speed work with 2-3 tempo runs plus a track session. From what I read on here, I'm guessing that most people push themselves too hard every workout and would probably improve their performance if they would substitute a few recovery workouts.

[SteelBlue]

Originally Posted by ERCougar

I'd be careful about adding more speed work. This is the most common workout to injure yourself in. Most people recommend only one of these workouts per week. I'd almost be concerned you're doing too MUCH speed work with 2-3 tempo runs plus a track session. From what I read on here, I'm guessing that most people push themselves too hard every workout and would probably improve their performance if they would substitute a few recovery workouts.

When I say more speed work what I'm really saying is "some" speed work. I haven't been doing any. I agree with you completely as the majority of injuries I've had were sustained or exacerbated during speed work. It's why I've been so loathe to resume it.

[creekster]

Great info, thanks for taking the time to post it.

[MikeWaters]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/health/07hearts.html

[SteelBlue]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/health/07hearts.html

Very interesting. Thanks for posting.

[ERCougar]

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/health/07hearts.html

This is sort of a strange article. HCM is nothing new--any time you hear about an athlete dying during a game or intense practice, it's almost always HCM (Reggie Lewis, Hank Gathers come to mind...). I had a friend die two years ago while cycling. He was the type who pushed himself really hard a lot and as I soon as I heard the news, my first thought was HCM, which the autopsy confirmed several days later. What we think happens is that the heart goes into a deadly arrhythmia, one that could be reversed if medical personnel were on hand with a defibrillator, but that's obviously pretty rare.

The article is treating this like we had no idea that athlete's hearts are large. Not true. Or that HCM merely means a large heart. Also not true--what characterizes HCM is the hypertrophy of a particular portion of the heart . Or that they're concerned that athletes can develop HCM through training. Again, not true--it's typically a heritable trait. So I'm not exactly sure what they're researching, other than perhaps merely documenting just how large an athlete's heart can get. I'd be curious to hear CardiacCoug's input on this.

[ERCougar]

Originally Posted by SteelBlue

Very interesting Zulu, thanks for the info. So if you were me, and training for a marathon what percentage of runs would you dedicate to the aerobic HR zones? How often should I be venturing into the anaerobic zones? My current breakdown is that I do 2-3 tempo runs/wk where my heart rate is normally around 165-175. Then 1/wk where I do a speed run, usually a 5k, and HR is redlined. I rarely do any aerobic workouts because they make me feel lazy. If I made my saturday long run an aerobic one, would that be enough?

One more question. On the run where my HR was reading very high but perceived exertion was much lower it was 100 degrees and I was probably not well hydrated. Could those conditions be a cause?

Most people recommend 1 long, 1 tempo, 1 track and 1-2 recovery runs during a week.