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I am not afraid of a release of the information at all. That said, the prior president deemed it classified, and this president has as well, which suggests it isn't safe for release at this time for some reason. I can live with that. And yes, the information we have so far strongly indicates that torture doesn't work. You want us to accept that no information has been released at all, which isn't true. Cheney and Rice already cited at least one terror attack which was averted due to torturing KSM. Problem is that they cited the planned attack on Library Tower in LA, which Bush announced on television the government had discovered and stopped the attack ONE YEAR BEFORE KSM was even captured. CIA interrogators have said the waterboarding was not helpful. A report was released that the US spent over a year hunting down leads from a waterboarded subject, only to learn later that he made it all up so the torture would stop. John McCain, our nation's most famous tortured individual, has repeatedly said torture doesn't work and produces largely lies. Of course, once again, this is totally irrelevant, as torture is illegal and waterboarding is torture, so even if it worked 100% of the time, we still shouldn't do it. |
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FYI: the prior president also deemed the recently released memos as classified.
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And FYI: the new president deemed the recently released memos as not classified. When he agrees the rest aren't classified, well- he can release them (it is totally within his perogative to disagree with his predecessor's decision, but in this case, they both seem to agree). If you agree with Bush's initial assessment that they are all classified, it seems you should be promoting that the new memos remain secret too. |
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Which is why further discussion on the topic with you is really a non-starter.
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