Mark Sanford - Page 2 - cougarguard.com — unofficial BYU Cougars / LDS sports, football, basketball forum and message board

Levin · 06-25-2009, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archaea

Why do you make this conclusion/assumption?

Today's politics are different and require a different breed. Moral constancy is not one of the traits or virtues necessary to "lead" politically. Good television face and voice, the ability to speak publicly in a clear and succinct manner, cozying up to party regulars and financiers, invoking the emotions of the time are de rigeur, not moral leadership, or selfless service. Those virtues died long ago, if they ever truly existed.

Fahrenheit 451.

eom.

Levin · 06-25-2009, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

This man was touted by some as a possible leader of the free world.

That he has been exposed NOW as a snake is a good thing. A happy thing.

I'm sorry you can't see that. The Republic is safer when people like Sanford are caught in their lies.

I agree. But it's not entertainment. I'm sorry you find nothing so entertaining. But that you do so is truly pitch perfect for someone as morally dumb as you.

MikeWaters · 06-25-2009, 07:19 PM

Did u watch his press conference? I haven't seen any of it. A week ago I had never heard of this ass-munch. I'm pissed that he ever invaded my consciousness. I wish he would go off the grid permanently, as long as he doesn't hurt the trail, the trees, the mountains, bigfoot, the chipmunks....

Levin · 06-25-2009, 07:51 PM

I watched part of it -- difficult to watch.

I had only heard of him before because he tried to refuse the stimulus dollars: South Carolina's highest court finally told him he had to.

Archaea · 06-25-2009, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levin

Fahrenheit 451.

eom.

A Book and subsequent movie about book burning relates how to your message?

Do you think out of the ashes a new society will actually need its political leadership to be selfless and moral? That seems grossly naive.

Get back to me after you experience the outrage of the newly informed.

il Padrino Ute · 06-25-2009, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

Please. The guy lied, lied, and lied some more. His mea culpa was only because he knew a paper was about to publish those emails. He betrayed the trust of his constituents.

He is another selb absorbed meglomaniac who thought he could do anything he wanted.

His press conference was an attempt to HOLD onto power.

As to his salvation, I'm sure none of this matters, because he is saved.

Mike, what's the difference between you enjoying what has happened to Sanford and me not feeling badly for what has happened to Ryan Leaf?

Sanford is somebody's son, is he not?

MikeWaters · 06-25-2009, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by il Padrino Ute

Mike, what's the difference between you enjoying what has happened to Sanford and me not feeling badly for what has happened to Ryan Leaf?

Sanford is somebody's son, is he not?

Ryan Leaf had potential.

Sanford is merely a snake.

Levin · 06-26-2009, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archaea

A Book and subsequent movie about book burning relates how to your message?

Do you think out of the ashes a new society will actually need its political leadership to be selfless and moral? That seems grossly naive.

Get back to me after you experience the outrage of the newly informed.

Have you not read the book? If you had, then you would understand the reference perfectly. I'll give you a primer: what you described as what's needed in politics today to be president describes perfectly the harrowing vision of Ray Bradbury in F. 451. Pure and utter cynicism of the deeply uninformed.

Archaea · 06-26-2009, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levin

Have you not read the book? If you had, then you would understand the reference perfectly. I'll give you a primer: what you described as what's needed in politics today to be president describes perfectly the harrowing vision of Ray Bradbury in F. 451. Pure and utter cynicism of the deeply uninformed.

The is rich. You assume one who is cynical is uninformed. Keep me laughing, Nasenbohrer, Herr Montag. Who is your Clarisse?

You offer nothing to shatter the vision justified by experience.

Cali Coug · 06-27-2009, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWaters

This man was touted by some as a possible leader of the free world.

That he has been exposed NOW as a snake is a good thing. A happy thing.

I'm sorry you can't see that. The Republic is safer when people like Sanford are caught in their lies.

But that most certainly doesn't mean the Republic is safer when people like you assume that all of them are exactly like Sanford.

06-25-2009, 07:51 PM	#14
Levin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,484	I watched part of it -- difficult to watch. I had only heard of him before because he tried to refuse the stimulus dollars: South Carolina's highest court finally told him he had to. __________________ "Now I say that I know the meaning of my life: 'To live for God, for my soul.' And this meaning, in spite of its clearness, is mysterious and marvelous. Such is the meaning of all existence." Levin, Anna Karenina, Part 8, Chapter 12

06-25-2009, 07:19 PM	#13
MikeWaters Demiurge Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 36,367	Did u watch his press conference? I haven't seen any of it. A week ago I had never heard of this ass-munch. I'm pissed that he ever invaded my consciousness. I wish he would go off the grid permanently, as long as he doesn't hurt the trail, the trees, the mountains, bigfoot, the chipmunks....