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You've got to be effing kidding me. What if you don't know who it is, you pull a gun and they kill you? Oh that's right, only police and military can have weapons. TRUST US - WE'RE FROM THE GOVERNMENT!! Good hell, man, statist politicians all around the world just attitudes like yours.
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Nice. Me too.
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I know that having to register isn't going to prevent me from getting a gun, but the restrictive gun control laws won't stop criminals from getting a gun. That's the point I was trying to make with my question.
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12-05-2008, 10:18 AM | #14 | |
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Hell, Plaxico Burress might not have shot himself in the leg. I'd rather have you guys carrying registered weapons than the idiots that carry, even if its only a modest reduction in the number of non-registered weapons being carried. Again, it won't deter all fools or criminals. No way. Understood. But who here can deny it would save some lives? And keep the good guys armed. It's the same concept as registering conceal carry and nailing those who carry who aren't registered. It doesn't deter them all, but it will deter some. Last edited by Ma'ake; 12-05-2008 at 10:21 AM. |
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12-05-2008, 01:19 PM | #15 |
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Here's a study that buttresses my (general) position:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...120500767.html |
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12-05-2008, 01:44 PM | #17 | |
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Has Maake trotted out the "when are you going to get your own tank" argument yet?
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12-06-2008, 02:21 AM | #18 |
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Don't know where the NRA falls on the continuum of 2nd Amendment thinking, but I read a pro-gun argument making the rounds in western (ie, conservative) Canada that gun owners should absolutely *not* back down from a theoretical position advocating that a homeless man with a shopping cart should be able to own a nuclear weapon... as any retreat from that (absurd) position would lead to the proverbial slippery slope & would ultimately result in the defeat of gun rights. Period. "Freedom is pure. Never compromise"
I'm not making this up. While the NRA mocks liberals for (ostensibly) overstating "what Heller means", other gun folks are arguing positions *far* outside the NRA's. Hell, *within_this_thread* are references to a more strident gun rights group. The NRA is just a political spin group, really. Last edited by Ma'ake; 12-06-2008 at 02:23 AM. |
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