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I don't believe you can make a persuasive argument why this process is justified. As many already note, "meh" is all I can say. I don't expect athletes at the top to avoid taking risks and pushing the limits of the rules. I really don't. These type of prosecutions are meaningless and harmful to society at large. I wish ill will upon the prosecutor. Apparently you disagree and prefer to see cycling destroyed. I remain unimpressed Marion Jones went to jail. I don't believe she should have. These sorts of prosecutions do not improve the economy or cause people to be honest. It is a harmful pursuit but there is always a Nazi around willing to win meaningless cases.
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05-24-2011, 02:49 PM | #12 |
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Evidence of MULTIPLE failed tests by Armstrong.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...2_a3&eref=sihp I include in that the multiple samples of physiologically unlikely/impossible testosterone levels, but before it was considered threshold for doping. |
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Are you impressed with this sort of journalism? I am not, and know there is so little that it may or may not be true. But because people will read the story, they're happy to chase phantoms even if untrue. You're willing to buy whatever they sell.
I remain unconcerned, and unimpressed. He passed the tests under the then existing standards, but because his competitors did not some are committed to bringing him down. Both have biases so all may be liars. That's most probable.
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Are you impressed with Lance's character attacks?
One of the events that made a very distinct impression on me was during one of the Lance's TdF wins, there was a rider in the peleton that had cooperated with authorities in reporting doping that led to consequences for other riders (I don't remember the names). This guy was a nobody on the tour, no chance of winning. But everytime he would try to join a breakaway, Lance himself would charge forward to join the breakaway, dooming it. Finally the other breakaway riders were getting pissed at this guy, saying you are screwing things up. The Versus commentators said Lance was showing who was boss. Actually Lance was just enforcing his code: anyone that cooperates with authorities in implicating doping by other riders will be frozen out and dealt with harshly. Omerta. To me, that was the most blatant proof (to that point) that Lance was involved in doping. And now all reports point to Lance actually initiating, organizing and distributing doping products. Not just a drug user, but a drug peddler. Lance is a man that has attempted to destroy people who tell the truth. He is scum. Sure he still has defenders. But quickly their character is revealed as well. |
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I am unimpressed by the process altogether.
This is a sport, and it's supposed to be entertainment and to show spectators who is the best. So in sport, where money's involved, competitors try to gain an advantage. Once one athlete tries to do something another wants to stay even. I just want to see Americans win, or some athlete from somewhere else who captures my imagination. I don't believe an athlete "cheating" to gain an advantage in terms of athletic performance by enhancements is worthy of the scrutiny involved. We have real crimes, such as murders, stolen money, stolen merchandise, insider trading, which go unnoticed and unprosecuted. To chase after athletes is a waste of taxpayer monies. I just want to watch the athletes play or win. I don't care of Barry Bond juiced or what Alberto Contador did. I enjoy watching the chases. That is what I pay to see. I assume they are all cheating but still enjoy the performances. Some push the boundaries further than others. In basketball, the players game the referees to get them not to call something or to cause the refs to call a charge even if it is not really a charge. I see these sorts of enhancements along the same lines.
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another enthusiast wrote this.
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Yes, duh, most in the sport have never tested positive while doping.
I guess Lance will find out that while his lieutenants were loyal, they aren't willing to do time in the clinker for him. |
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Neither should there be for anybody. That is the travesty.
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so there should be no laws regulating distribution of medications and drugs, and if there are laws, then they shouldn't be enforced?
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How pray tell do you deduce athletic performance enhancing drugs and their usage is the subject of this investigation? It certainly doesn't deal with physicians dispensing medications without a prescription. Nowitzsky doesn't give a hoot about that, but in making or continuing his name. I really don't know what public policy this investigation advances.
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